Aggie Websider: Texas Lite At It Again. SECeding in 24 - 36 Hours

There is a new countdown every other day. When it doesnt happen, there will be a new countdown next week. And so on.

There is a big gap between "is leaving" and "wants to leave." OTOH, not much difference between "wants to" and "intends to."

Haven't you learned anything about not believing what you read on message boards? Two weeks ago aTm2SEC was a "done deal". But it didn't happen, did it?

Like what? What exactly does an anonymous poster on a message board lose if they're wrong? Reputation shmeputation. In the meantime, they sell more subscriptions. They have everything to gain by keeping this going and nothing to lose.

Just stamp "gullible" on your forehead so that we can see you coming.

Egg-zactly. It is like the guy who predicted the apocalypse. So what if it doesn't happen. He really meant October 25th.

All that I have done is report what David Sandhop, the administrator of the Scout A&M messageboard, has reported.

My understanding is that Mr. Sandhop is the A&M version of Robert Allen. I understand, of course, that Robert is not always correct. But he has sources of information that are usually reliable and he is certainly not an anonymous poster on a message board. And certainly, he and Terry have a bit more credibility and inside information than the average poster such as you or me.

I suppose that I could say that you are "in denial" but that is something that I would not be comfortable saying since usually I take the role of the skeptic and usually I am the one accused of being "in denial."

In this case, however, I have swung to the other side and about all I can say with respect to that is that given the choice of believing you (an anonymous poster) and Mr. Sandhop, I tend to give the edge to Mr. Sandhop. The reason is simple. I think he is connected to sources within A&M administration and I think that you are not.

Didn't that guy have a stroke and lose the ability to speak? That's a pretty high toll

Synchronicity.

And he, like Allen, needs to sell subscriptions.

What have I said to "believe"? All I've said is that these guys have zero credibility. I mean, after all, they were the same ones who was saying it was a "done deal" two weeks ago, and then the SEC announced that it wasn't. They want to keep things stirred up to sell subscriptions. Be as gullible as you want to be. I'll believe it when Slive makes an announcement welcoming aTm to the SEC.

So if we're undefeated at that point can we claim the MNC?

You'll have to excuse RXC he considers the fact that aTm is trying like everything to move to the SEC only exists if and when it is a done deal and an article about it appears in SI. Until then any information regarding the actual current state of the effort is not worthy of taking up byte space on the internet.

I don't believe any of it.

Premium sites are just taking advantage of people who are desperate for anything CFB related during a long summer.

Will you believe it when A&M makes their announcement that they are leaving the Big 12? My understanding is that A&M sources are saying that the sequence of events will be that A&M will leave the Big 12 about a week before the SEC takes a vote.

My understanding is that the SEC desires to avoid the appearance of tampering in view of Beebe's threat.

Okay, I really don't actually know what will happen, but neither do you. And I can say that if Robert Allen came out and said that we were leaving for the Pac, I would tend to believe him. Same with Mr. Sandhop saying that it is a done deal that A&M is leaving the Big 12 conference within a couple of days and that they expect a subsequent invite from the SEC a week later.

Believing those guys is not like believing an anonymous messageboard poster in my opinion.

Why would they leave unless they knew the SEC would vote them in? With Nebraska and Colorado, they happened on the same day. Plus, I think the bigger issue for A&M is that the eastern schools in the SEC may vote against them. They don't want expansion into their current states, VT seems tied to Virginia who doesn't want to go SEC. I also read that Vanderbilt is against it. All rumors, I know, but they are just as credible as anything coming from A&M bloggers who have already proven to be wrong over and over and over again. I can see a few SEC schools voting agaisnt A&M, and I don't think a good commissioner like Mike Slive is going to move forward unless everyone is on board. Just more wishful thinking from A&M. I really don't think they know the harm that move would do to them. All because of a crazy strong inferiority complex over Texas. Nothing out of OSU with respect to OU can even compare to the A&M Texas complex. It's a whole nother ballgame out there. I dont' want them to leave so we can keep whipping their butts and to see the meltdown when SEC tells them no.

That is okay. Usually, I am about as skeptical as he is in this case and I can not count the number for times that people have accused me of being in denial. Despite that, more often then not, in my opinion, I have been right to be skeptical.

But in this case, I don't believe that those folks on the A&M board are just making it up. I think they have sources within A&M administration that are telling them that A&M is currently negotiating the exit fee with the Big 12, that it will be finalized very soon and after that, A&M will announce that they are leaving.

Whether their sources are correct, I don't know. But I am convinced that Mr. Sandhop believes his sources. I also think he regards his credibility to be very important and he would not be saying these things if he did not believe them.

All I can say to that is that your logic and Aggie logic may not be the same thing.

BTW, I also wish they would stay. In my opinion, our rivalry with A&M was becoming our most important rivalry after bedlam. Being the first conference game every year, I was beginning to get pretty excited about it. Unfortunately, I do not see Tech or Missouri as being close to the rival that A&M was becoming. Really sad in my opinion and I wish it was different.

But I saw on a message board that T Boone was going to take over aTm and rename them. That's still going to happen, right?

When an aTm official steps up to the podium, sure.

And we've been hearing this for how long?

SEC: "We're not looking to expand beyond twelve teams."

Now you can believe speculation about the SEC and appearances. But applying Occham's razor, the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, and the simplest explanation is that the SEC isn't looking to expand beyond twelve teams.

Where have I claimed to? The only thing I've said is that I don't believe internet gossip and rumor.

I'm pretty sure I read on here last year that us to the Pac was a "done deal". But here we are...

That's certainly how they sell subscriptions.

gul·li·ble: [guhl-uh-buhl] adjective
easily deceived or cheated.

1793 (implied in gullibility), earlier cullibility (1728), probably connected to gull, a cant term for "dupe, sucker" (1594), which is of uncertain origin. It is perhaps from the bird (see gull (n.)), or from verb gull "to swallow" (1530, from O.Fr. goule, from L. gula "throat," see gullet); in either case with a sense of "someone who will swallow anything thrown at him." Another possibility is M.E. dial. gull "newly hatched bird" (1382), which is perhaps from O.N. golr "yellow," from the hue of its down.

Okay, RX, you have forced me to say it. You are just "in denial."

About what? That aTm wants out of the Big XII-II and away from Texas? I believe that. That much is pretty evident. Other than that, give me an actual verifiable fact that isn't website rumor that you think I'm in denial about.

Cliff as I said, his definition of something happening only occurs once it's on an engraved plaque in the Library of Congress.

I'm with you. I think they're trying hard down in Aggy to get out. I think the guys on the sites down there are telling what they're hearing with maybe a bit of lean towards what they want to hear.

Now will any of it come to fruition? Who knows, but just as two weeks ago. Just because it doesn't hit the end result desired by aTm doesn't mean nothing happened.

I know, I know. And I am sure that a lot of things have to happen. But Beebe's suggestion of a deadline:

http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/31372272/1

And Mr. Picken's comment to the effect that A&M has "three weeks" to decide to stay or leave leads me to believe that both sides want this over with quickly. When both sides want to deal, things can get done in a hurry.

Personally, as I have previously said, I am disappointed. In my opinion, our rivalry with A&M was becoming our best one after bedlam. For some reason, games with Tech and Missouri just doesn't get me excited like a game with A&M, and I wish they would stay. I suspect, that we will replace them with BYU and there is no way that I can ever love to hate BYU the way I already love to hate A&M.