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llcoolw

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All these Cannabis dispensaries confuse me. It seems like ending prohibition by opening a bunch of alcohol free bars. It feels like a lot of the MJ crowd was just hoping this would be a short lived step to full legalization.

For there to be this many outlets indicates it's turned into a bit of a snake oil where people are being sold on magical healing properties. There can't really be enough people who can actually benefit from the medication to support this boom.
With symptoms like insomnia, anyone can get medical mj in Oklahoma. Every rec user is a already a customer or good friends of one. It’s just a way of trying to get two birds with one stone. Pun intended. Those who were doing it anyway are just giving the state a cut instead of Mexico or California. And the state looks passionate towards the citizens wishes.
 

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With symptoms like insomnia, anyone can get medical mj in Oklahoma. Every rec user is a already a customer or good friends of one. It’s just a way of trying to get two birds with one stone. Pun intended. Those who were doing it anyway are just giving the state a cut instead of Mexico or California. And the state looks passionate towards the citizens wishes.
I understand the argument for, and against medical mj. But buzz free mj is a different animal. Honest question, does buzz free cannabis help with insomnia?
 

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All these Cannabis dispensaries confuse me. It seems like ending prohibition by opening a bunch of alcohol free bars. It feels like a lot of the MJ crowd was just hoping this would be a short lived step to full legalization.
Why the confusion?

It was/is all a ruse to get to rec marijuana. We all knew this. It'll be on a ballot shortly. Not that it needs to be... everyone that is really using it for rec use already is.

Let's make it rec and lets double or triple whatever the current tax is.
 

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Why the confusion?

It was/is all a ruse to get to rec marijuana. We all knew this. It'll be on a ballot shortly. Not that it needs to be... everyone that is really using it for rec use already is.

Let's make it rec and lets double or triple whatever the current tax is.
I don't know why most people pay for it anyway. It's about as hard to grow as dandelions. If I were a user I'd never buy any.
 
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Serious question Townie...Do you think the "medical marijuana boom" may be a tad bit overblown? It seems every other street corner in Oklahoma has a dispensary. That just doesn't seem sustainable, looks like an investment that is likely to go up in smoke.
I think the same thing about casinos whenever I drive through OK, but they keep building them.
 

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I think the same thing about casinos whenever I drive through OK, but they keep building them.
They started as bingo halls and now they are full fledged halls of gambling and book. I guess we will see the same slippery slope on drugs and drug law? Not that I'm arguing pro or con here...just wondering what the train of thought is for someone opening a dispensary in a seemingly already saturated market or even one that is yet to really exist.
 

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I understand the argument for, and against medical mj. But buzz free mj is a different animal. Honest question, does buzz free cannabis help with insomnia?
No. "Buzz free" cannabis can help with daytime anxiety.

But insomnia generally requires THC, which is the "buzz" part. People that have trouble sleeping due to rumination, that spinning thoughts feeling, can sometimes get relief with very small doses of THC so would not have much of a buzz.
 
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They started as bingo halls and now they are full fledged halls of gambling and book. I guess we will see the same slippery slope on drugs and drug law? Not that I'm arguing pro or con here...just wondering what the train of thought is for someone opening a dispensary in a seemingly already saturated market or even one that is yet to really exist.
I think you're vastly underestimating the market, like I did/do with gambling.
 

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I don't know why most people pay for it anyway. It's about as hard to grow as dandelions. If I were a user I'd never buy any.
Under the law you can have 6 mature plants. That would be the best I agree. I’m hearing theyre having major problems keeping the good flower in stock. Several of our OSU brethren own dispensaries and they all complain of the same thing. Once word goes out about a good product, it’s all grabbed up within a day. Salespeople are actually going door to door with plastic garbage bags full of bud trying to unload it. No one wants average weed anymore. So, it all goes south on I35. Texas better move quickly as they are missing out on a tremendous revenue stream.
 

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This whole thing must be driving the IRS and Oklahoma Tax Commission crazy. To wit, most of the dispensaries can only accept cash, which most banks cannot accept from these businesses. What’s legal in Oklahoma isn’t legal at the federal level, which means any bank with a federal charter or a state charter and also belongs to the Federal Reserve system cannot accept deposits originating from weed sales by these businesses. As a result, these businesses are almost entirely cash only sales businesses even if they are selling weed and CBD oils without THC. I have heard there are a few state chartered banks who are accepting cash deposits, but I haven’t tried to verify. If it’s true, I’m not sure how they are getting away with it if they have FDIC insurance. Anyway, most of these businesses are sitting on large piles of cash and there aren’t any bank records or cash movement records. A tax cheat’s dream.
 
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This whole thing must be driving the IRS and Oklahoma Tax Commission crazy. To wit, most of the dispensaries can only accept cash, which most banks cannot accept from these businesses. What’s legal in Oklahoma isn’t legal at the federal level, which means any bank with a federal charter or a state charter and also belongs to the Federal Reserve system cannot accept deposits originating from weed sales by these businesses. As a result, these businesses are almost entirely cash only sales businesses even if they are selling weed and CBD oils without THC. I have heard there are a few state chartered banks who are accepting cash deposits, but I haven’t tried to verify. If it’s true, I’m not sure how they are getting away with it if they have FDIC insurance. Anyway, most of these businesses are sitting on large piles of cash and there aren’t any bank records or cash movement records. A tax cheat’s dream.
I'm sure this little issue will motivate congress to make some changes at the federal level. Money talks.
 

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This whole thing must be driving the IRS and Oklahoma Tax Commission crazy. To wit, most of the dispensaries can only accept cash, which most banks cannot accept from these businesses. What’s legal in Oklahoma isn’t legal at the federal level, which means any bank with a federal charter or a state charter and also belongs to the Federal Reserve system cannot accept deposits originating from weed sales by these businesses. As a result, these businesses are almost entirely cash only sales businesses even if they are selling weed and CBD oils without THC. I have heard there are a few state chartered banks who are accepting cash deposits, but I haven’t tried to verify. If it’s true, I’m not sure how they are getting away with it if they have FDIC insurance. Anyway, most of these businesses are sitting on large piles of cash and there aren’t any bank records or cash movement records. A tax cheat’s dream.
Yeah also a nightmare for the dispensary as far as potential robberies. A guy I went to high school with has a security business with a focus on the weed businesses and is making a killing.
 
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Under the law you can have 6 mature plants. That would be the best I agree. I’m hearing theyre having major problems keeping the good flower in stock. Several of our OSU brethren own dispensaries and they all complain of the same thing. Once word goes out about a good product, it’s all grabbed up within a day. Salespeople are actually going door to door with plastic garbage bags full of bud trying to unload it. No one wants average weed anymore. So, it all goes south on I35. Texas better move quickly as they are missing out on a tremendous revenue stream.
It should only be a matter of time before OSU gets into the act with degrees tailored for it. Already happening other places with weed, & other programs like fermentation (craft brewing, distilling). If you're an AG school, you're not looking forward if you're not considering moving into this area, imo.
 

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It should only be a matter of time before OSU gets into the act with degrees tailored for it. Already happening other places with weed, & other programs like fermentation (craft brewing, distilling). If you're an AG school, you're not looking forward if you're not considering moving into this area, imo.
I’m going to dream on that thought tonight.