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I like your pedophilia analogy. Similar would be if someone was raped, the rapist was caught and prosecuted, and after the court case was decided a group of disgruntled rapists built a statue of the offender in the victim's neighborhood in order to harass/intimidate them.
Side note: Defending the statues isn't racist, but the statues were 100% built by racists for racist purposes. Put them in a museum where the people who claim to care so much about our history will never go see them.
Side note: Defending the statues isn't racist, but the statues were 100% built by racists for racist purposes. Put them in a museum where the people who claim to care so much about our history will never go see them.
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Are Columbus, Washington, and Jefferson confederates? How about US Grant? I didn't know that bit of history, oh wise one.
What I'm "defending" against is the blanket dismantling of American History in the name of a sin of the past...However, I've also defended the legal means of removal of statues placed in the way you describe...I do NOT agree that all of them are or where placed for those intentions.. that are being removed and vandalized. We have to be careful to not paint with a broad brush because the little mermaid and George Washington / Thomas Jefferson aren't primarily racist pigs.
What I'm "defending" against is the blanket dismantling of American History in the name of a sin of the past...However, I've also defended the legal means of removal of statues placed in the way you describe...I do NOT agree that all of them are or where placed for those intentions.. that are being removed and vandalized. We have to be careful to not paint with a broad brush because the little mermaid and George Washington / Thomas Jefferson aren't primarily racist pigs.
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Here's the way I see it, many people from the south believe that the Civil War was fought over state rights and not over slavery. That's why they have no problem flying the confederate flag and putting up statues of people like Robert E Lee.
I very much disagree with that theory, but it isn't my place to tell someone else what to believe. The members of the southern communities where these statues reside should have the opportunity to decide for themselves whether or not they should be removed. It isn't my place or anyone else's to force them to do it.
The First Amendment is a wonderful thing, but at times it produces undesirable results. That's a small price to pay though, because freedom matters a lot more than someone's feelings.
I very much disagree with that theory, but it isn't my place to tell someone else what to believe. The members of the southern communities where these statues reside should have the opportunity to decide for themselves whether or not they should be removed. It isn't my place or anyone else's to force them to do it.
The First Amendment is a wonderful thing, but at times it produces undesirable results. That's a small price to pay though, because freedom matters a lot more than someone's feelings.
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The defacing of history by the changing tides of culture is what I was talking about ...not blatant statues placed to bring or keep a specific race of people down. This is the rub, who decides and how far do "we the people" go? When is it too far and when is it not far enough? We have to be careful when removing oppression not to oppress others in the process.
How has this "dismantling of American History" affected you personally? You seem to take it really personally so I am assuming your rights must have been infringed?
Oklahoma had one statue and one monument removed in Tahlequah by the Cherokee Nation. It was on Cherokee Nation property and was put in place by the Daughters of the Confederacy. It honored a Cherokee Chief who had a loose affiliation to the confederacy. It was removed by the Cherokee Nation with a statement.
For me Denver had one statue toppled that "honored" the "battle" of the Sand Creek Massacre and the union troops. Also had another removed by the city to prevent damage. Also had a Christopher Columbus statue damaged that was put there in 1970. Non of these worry me in the least. I would encourage law enforcement to try to arrest the vandals for petty property crimes.
Oklahoma had one statue and one monument removed in Tahlequah by the Cherokee Nation. It was on Cherokee Nation property and was put in place by the Daughters of the Confederacy. It honored a Cherokee Chief who had a loose affiliation to the confederacy. It was removed by the Cherokee Nation with a statement.
For me Denver had one statue toppled that "honored" the "battle" of the Sand Creek Massacre and the union troops. Also had another removed by the city to prevent damage. Also had a Christopher Columbus statue damaged that was put there in 1970. Non of these worry me in the least. I would encourage law enforcement to try to arrest the vandals for petty property crimes.
Nice try attempting to change the subject. You went from crazy rationalization to strawman. When exactly did Washington and Jefferson fight against our nation? When were they confederates?
I clearly stated earlier that we were only talking about the confederate statues placed by groups during the Jim Crow era not all statutes that some groups of idiots have decided to tear down that were not erected for that purpose. Either you are trying to change the subject because you realize you are saying things that sound horrible or you don't even bother to read my posts before hitting the lame "dislike" buttons.
I clearly stated earlier that we were only talking about the confederate statues placed by groups during the Jim Crow era not all statutes that some groups of idiots have decided to tear down that were not erected for that purpose. Either you are trying to change the subject because you realize you are saying things that sound horrible or you don't even bother to read my posts before hitting the lame "dislike" buttons.
I agree with you that vandals should be arrested for the property crimes they commit. There is NO excuse for it. For example if I don't like someone's Coexist sticker on their car...I can agree to disagree with the concept, but I have absolutely NO right in anyway to remove their sticker or even rip down a street sign that says "Pride" Avenue on a public street. That's just lawless behavior and wrong, a personal and public property violation, and it's unloving too boot. These are similar things and should be protected and prosecuted no matter the political leanings or "feelers" of the one doing the property damage, that's the point. I want our children and grandchildren to live in a world where they can have opposition viewpoints without fear of reprisal and "coexist" in love even with opposition viewpoints. That should concern everyone.
That is our last conversation then. I was very clear about what I was talking about as quoted above. Everyone else completely understood the subject but you. You responded with dislikes and complaints instead of saying something like "I'm not talking about confederate statues" when I repeatedly referred to them.
You are either changing your story or didn't even bother to read my posts before all your melodramatic whining about being called a racist. Either way, you are not worth discussing things with being that ridiculously disingenuous. Multiple pages of discussing racist confederate statues to say "That isn't what I am talking about." What a jerk move.
You are either changing your story or didn't even bother to read my posts before all your melodramatic whining about being called a racist. Either way, you are not worth discussing things with being that ridiculously disingenuous. Multiple pages of discussing racist confederate statues to say "That isn't what I am talking about." What a jerk move.
If "child like" is
No new wars.
Historic low unemployment for minorities and women (until pandemic)
Fewer rules and regulations that strangle small businesses
Better border security
Reformed Bidens institutionally racist criminal justice policy. (Obama/Biden had 8 years to fix it, nothing)
Historic Peace deals in the Middle East
then I'm in.
No new wars.
Historic low unemployment for minorities and women (until pandemic)
Fewer rules and regulations that strangle small businesses
Better border security
Reformed Bidens institutionally racist criminal justice policy. (Obama/Biden had 8 years to fix it, nothing)
Historic Peace deals in the Middle East
then I'm in.
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Can anyone explain the major shift in votes after they shut down the system and then all of a sudden nationwide Biden caught up all at once in one block of votes simultaneously across multiple states.
Is this even statistically possible? Has it ever happened before.
https://votepatternanalysis.substac...Vr_R64Raki-d68URDI4n3EnwFNKCqn_XzFIYntgoonOjQ
I'm not saying these numbers are wrong, but how do you explain it.
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