Football Seniors returning in 2021

[teachum]

He went from Round 2 (last year) to 7th round or UDFA this season, and could maybe get into the 5th round or so with a good year next year.

I just hope if he does declare that he's able to make a roster. If he can stay focused and healthy, he could definitely be a fringe starter or quality RB2. He would be perfect in a 2-3 RB rotation committee somewhere.

Man, I don't know about that. He'll blow them away at the combine, and scouts will take into account the Oline issues we've had this year. If he hurt himself any, it was probably with all the preseason noise, but I doubt that makes much difference either. I think they'll see a back with size and elite speed that didn't take much punishment this year, and snap him up in the 2nd, maybe 3rd round.

 

[OSU9953]

He went from Round 2 (last year) to 7th round or UDFA this season, and could maybe get into the 5th round or so with a good year next year.

I just hope if he does declare that he's able to make a roster. If he can stay focused and healthy, he could definitely be a fringe starter or quality RB2. He would be perfect in a 2-3 RB rotation committee somewhere.

I don’t think he’s dropped off that far. I mean you have ettiene (Clemson), najee Harris (bama), Kylin hill (Mississippi state) as the premier backs in this class. I do believe someone will take a chance on him. I also expect him to destroy the combine as well. Another reason his stock has fallen IMO is because he hasn’t fixed a couple main issues in which he returned in the first place. He still fumbles the ball...I believe he has 11-12 career fumbles with only 2-3 lost. He’s also subpar in pass protection. Either way....I wish him well but I’d be stunned if he wants to run it back another year

 

[Birry]

I don’t think he’s dropped off that far. I mean you have ettiene (Clemson), najee Harris (bama), Kylin hill (Mississippi state) as the premier backs in this class. I do believe someone will take a chance on him. I also expect him to destroy the combine as well. Another reason his stock has fallen IMO is because he hasn’t fixed a couple main issues in which he returned in the first place. He still fumbles the ball...I believe he has 11-12 career fumbles with only 2-3 lost. He’s also subpar in pass protection. Either way....I wish him well but I’d be stunned if he wants to run it back another year

How far is far? The best RBs in a class barely crack the first round these days, so I'd expect him to go between rounds 3-5 at best.

 

[The Poke]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the schools have any choice in this, do they? I thought the NCAA's move to give extra eligibility was pretty clear-cut.

Eligibility and Scholarship are 2 different things.

 

[OSU9953]

How far is far? The best RBs in a class barely crack the first round these days, so I'd expect him to go between rounds 3-5 at best.

RB from LSU cracked 1st round this past draft. There was also 5 RBs taken in the 2nd round. I’m not saying he goes that high. IMO best case is late 2nd for him...but I expect 3rd-4th round for him. I can’t take a back that puts the ball on the ground as well can’t pass block

 

[Birry]

RB from LSU cracked 1st round this past draft. There was also 5 RBs taken in the 2nd round. I’m not saying he goes that high. IMO best case is late 2nd for him...but I expect 3rd-4th round for him. I can’t take a back that puts the ball on the ground as well can’t pass block

Edwards-Helaire was a surprise, and a luxury pick by a stacked KC team with the last pick in the first round. I know he went in that round. I'm just saying that RB value isn't as high as it used to be. Teams are going with committees across the entire league, and a lot of them have seemingly 3 plug and play guys. And I don't think Chuba brings enough to the table to really separate himself from the noise of the other backs around the league.

 

[UpstatePoke]

Chuba’s pass blocking has not improved since last year. IMHO his stock has dropped since this time last year.

 

[cableok]

Chuba will need to return. He's killed his NFL stock this season, and either needs to prove last season wasn't a fluke, or he'll need to give up on NFL dreams. I could actually see LD or Dez going to the NFL this season before Chuba.

I think we have a number of guys on the defensive side that could go the NFL route and don't need another season.
Rodarius Williams should be a pretty solid NFL lock.
Bundage, Amen, Rodriguez, and Harper seem like late round or UDFA guys, and I'm not sure how staying another season will improve that.

Jenkins could be a higher pick on the OL, but Sills might actually benefit from another year.

In the WR group, Tylan needs to go get paid while he can. Stoner and Wolf should return.

So from that group, here's what I think will happen.

Should go
Jenkins
Rodarius Williams
Tylan Wallace

Could go, but another year wouldn't hurt
LD Brown
Bundage
Amen
Rodriguez
Harper
Sills

Need to stay
Stoner
Wolf
Dez
Chuba

100% agree on the three you have listed as “should go”. None are going to significantly improve NFL odds by staying another year.

On the “could go” list, I see you didn’t list Cam Murray. I would love to see him stay, but he falls under the same category I would have for Stoner below.

I have a differing opinion on “needs to stay”. I don’t think Stoner or Wolf are going to help their draft stock from another year. I hope they both stay, but a window of opportunity to ”win the lottery” and make a NFL team is extremely short.

Dez could help his draft odds so agree he needs to stay.

 

[osupsycho]

100% agree on the three you have listed as “should go”. None are going to significantly improve NFL odds by staying another year.

On the “could go” list, I see you didn’t list Cam Murray. I would love to see him stay, but he falls under the same category I would have for Stoner below.

I have a differing opinion on “needs to stay”. I don’t think Stoner or Wolf are going to help their draft stock from another year. I hope they both stay, but a window of opportunity to ”win the lottery” and make a NFL team is extremely short.

Dez could help his draft odds so agree he needs to stay.

Dez is just a junior and thus has two more years left to play so highly doubt he leaves considering he has just one games worth of good film.

 

[Big Daddy]

I'd love to see Harper stay another year to play with Little Harper one more year as starters together.

Bundage might come back since he missed a year and is starting to make a name for himself as a pass rush specialist.

Wolf and Stoner have very slim chance at NFL. Should take it now.

Would any of the Grad Transfers consider coming back since they didn't contribute much this year ?

I just hope Sterling and Peel come back !!!

 

[Birry]

100% agree on the three you have listed as “should go”. None are going to significantly improve NFL odds by staying another year.

On the “could go” list, I see you didn’t list Cam Murray. I would love to see him stay, but he falls under the same category I would have for Stoner below.

I have a differing opinion on “needs to stay”. I don’t think Stoner or Wolf are going to help their draft stock from another year. I hope they both stay, but a window of opportunity to ”win the lottery” and make a NFL team is extremely short.

Dez could help his draft odds so agree he needs to stay.

All good points. I think both Stoner and Wolf could be practice squad guys at least, but if they get a chance this season then for sure they could take it. I probably needed another category that was for longshots, which would have included those two.

I think all three of our primary RBs that we've seen this season could make a roster somewhere, especially considering how often RBs get injured. Obviously Dez and LD could use another year to prove what they can do. Chuba is weird no matter how you look at his situation. He's become a more risky investment for a GM. He has the measurables, but this season has literally done nothing but hurt his stock. He's fumbled a lot, shown he can be a distraction off the field, been constantly injured, and appears to lack focus at times. He's also averaging under 5 ypc.

 

[SouthTulsaPoke]

Chuba will need to return. He's killed his NFL stock this season, and either needs to prove last season wasn't a fluke, or he'll need to give up on NFL dreams. I could actually see LD or Dez going to the NFL this season before Chuba.

I think we have a number of guys on the defensive side that could go the NFL route and don't need another season.
Rodarius Williams should be a pretty solid NFL lock.
Bundage, Amen, Rodriguez, and Harper seem like late round or UDFA guys, and I'm not sure how staying another season will improve that.

Jenkins could be a higher pick on the OL, but Sills might actually benefit from another year.

In the WR group, Tylan needs to go get paid while he can. Stoner and Wolf should return.

So from that group, here's what I think will happen.

Should go
Jenkins
Rodarius Williams
Tylan Wallace

Could go, but another year wouldn't hurt
LD Brown
Bundage
Amen
Rodriguez
Harper
Sills

Need to stay
Stoner
Wolf
Dez
Chuba

Ogbongbemiga will enter the draft and will be a third or fourth round pick.

 

[SlurrrPup]

2020 draft Chuba was projected as being around the 5th best RB in a strong RB draft class.
2021 draft Chuba is projected as being around the 6th best RB in a weak RB draft class.

He is weak at pass protection, which was already known last year and nothing changed.
This year, fumble issues and not looking particular good, when he was healthy to start the season.
We rode him hard last year and this year's results may be part of that.

I wish him the best, but I think he should be done at OSU and I hope he goes into the NFL with his only focus being on his health and football.
If he goes into the NFL, like he came into this season, he is probably a guy that hangs onto a team for 3-4 years and then goes to the CFL.

 

[Rob B.]

I agree with that, but I actually think he has more to prove from a psychological standpoint right now. Given his offseason antics and his apparent lack of focus this season, he has some major red flags at this point. Not to mention this season has also introduced durability concerns (how long has he had this lingering ankle issue?)

If I'm an objective NFL scout, I see a guy with pretty good measurables, but is mentally and physically fragile. He has zero toughness. At best, he's a straightline speed guy that could be a fringe starter or solid backup. At worst, he's a slightly below average backup RB that's injured often, and could easily turn into a Kaepernick-esque outspoken PR nightmare if something doesn't go his way. Personally, I'm not touching Chuba with a 10 ft pole if I'm an NFL GM. Not because he's a bad player, but because the risk isn't worth the reward.

There are teams that could use his skillset, and I hope he gets the chance to prove all those concerns above wrong. He definitely has potential. I just think he's added more questions than answers this season, and might benefit from staying.

About the only thing NFL scouts care about are combine results. Chuba will do fine and he WON'T be back.

 

[Birry]

About the only thing NFL scouts care about are combine results. Chuba will do fine and he WON'T be back.

I'm not knocking his game. I think he's an NFL back. I just think that he dug a hole for himself with the off-field stir this summer, lingering injuries, and fumble rate this season. Couple those things with a league that has created a watered-down position with RBs, and you have a potential for him to fall pretty far.

 

[ATLCowboy4]

I'm not knocking his game. I think he's an NFL back. I just think that he dug a hole for himself with the off-field stir this summer, lingering injuries, and fumble rate this season. Couple those things with a league that has created a watered-down position with RBs, and you have a potential for him to fall pretty far.

NFL scouts will turn on the tape and realize this offense sucks. Where are people getting 6th round? This was an article in the Oklahoman this week.

 

[SanditeCowboy]

Just heard RA on his radio show say he expects Josh Sills to be back for the oline next year. That is great news.


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[teachum]

Just heard RA on his radio show say he expects Josh Sills to be back for the oline next year. That is great news.


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I had no idea he had OSU ties until I saw his deer hunting article.

 

[Jalexjsmithj]

Just heard RA on his radio show say he expects Josh Sills to be back for the oline next year. That is great news.


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I had no idea he had OSU ties until I saw his deer hunting article.

If you go bank to his announcement when he transferred here he made a specific point to say that he’d continue his career for 2 more seasons. Back then that was probably going to go to NCAA appeal since it was dependent on the medical redshirt of his final season at WV. But now, no need to go to appeal.


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[Jalexjsmithj]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.c...ransfer-oklahoma-state-cowboys-football-2019

Looks like the link to the tweet may be broken but RA references that he said that in the article attached.


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