Tend to agree with you here, but as the season's gone on, they remind me of a few recent OSU teams. Gundy did a very nice job there for a couple of years of basically winning pretty much every 50/50 type of games, & did so in sometimes unimpressive fashion, but they just won & moved on. In those seasons, there were several games where we simply didn't beat ourselves. Games vs. UT come to mind, in particular. Charlie Strong invented new ways to lose to us every year he was there.