Sonner Tramel tries to get Gundy again, that sob from Norman, but Gundy rises to the moment - BerassTrams asks ..~"who in particular stood for you out to you defensively.." , ~17:30 on the video, in the past it would have been number this, number that, Gundy says the names of the players. Up Yours Tramel - trying to set a trap, that guy is despicable as a journalist, if that what he claim to be.