Holder only wants 10 teams?

Where did you come up with that $29 million per team number? Currently the 12 teams of the SEC receive about $17.1 million average over the life of the contract. That is based on $205 million for 12 teams.

$29 million for 14 teams would be $406 million total. Do you really think that CBS and/or ESPN would agree to essentially double the payout in return for 2 additional teams?

My guess is that adding a couple of teams would add about $34.2 million to the total payout. (The per team payout would remain the same.)

Do you have specific information to the contrary?

Teams that would add value to the Big 12:

West Virginia: Football and Basketball, womens bball too. Academics suck though. Small TV audience
Memphis: big boosters waiting for a AQ Conference invite. Good basketball. Bigger TV audience
Louisville: Been good in the past in football (Best team currently in Kentucky), and damn good basketball. Bigger TV Audience
Notre Dame: (assuming the Big East falls flat).Large following of fans in all sports. Big TV audience.
BYU: like Notre Dame. Large TV audience, and decent in most sports.

These are just to name a few. You could go with Cincy, South Florida, San Diego State, etc as well and they would add some sort of value to the league.

TCU added sports power inside our footprint. They have been really good in football and baseball here lately.

That said, the Big 12 does not need any more Texas schools added!

It's my great insider knowledge.....LOL

If Missouri goes to the SEC, the stand to gain up to $29 million from TV revenue. Which adds 12 Mil a year to the current deal.

It is only on ESPN!
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...i-tigers-study-outlines-sec-revenue-advantage

I'm not sure that any of those teams would come. Notre Dame has already basically said no, and BYU won't commit to anything. And HELL NO to Memphis.

Don't tell me you are scared of Memphis?

It would add some tv sets and a good basketball program.

Of course that is just a made up number, just based solely on speculation. Even Neinas is having a hard time believing it.

"Stable" and "no one has quit yet" aren't the same thing. The league was never stable because of unequal sharing from the beginning.

Those are all valid questions. But none of them speak to stability.

People in Memphis don't care about Univ. of Memphis football, and football is what is driving everything. People in Memphis care about blues and casinos, and not necessarily in that order.

I disagree. They all speak to stability in some fashion. For too long this conference hasn't done what is in the best interests of the whole. Doing those things is in the best interest of the conference. Doing that, adds to stability.

How are you defining "stability"?

I agree with that. A conference is a voluntary organization that exists for the mutual benefit of the members. "Mutual benefit" being the key words. The benefits have not been mutual since the beginning of the Big 12, and that is what has brought us where we are now.

But the NCAA can't control what other organizations they join. They can only regulate their conduct of athletics and recruiting. They have no say in conference sizes or membership, nor can they.

It's much different than the AFC and NFC those are scheduling breakdowns in a professional league. The conferences in college are voluntary associations on parallel with the voluntary association that is the NCAA. They are equals, not a construct of the NCAA.

Don't underestimate the WVU TV audience. They have a ton of out of state students, and most grads wind up out of state as well. There are many WVU graduates in the high population states to the east of WV.

I'll agree the league has never been stable, but it wasn't caused by unequal revenue distribution. In fact at the time the league was formed that was the formula for all leagues. The instability came in the unequal distribution of power and having it all vested in 4 teams. Well 2 of those are now gone, so maybe it will be stable going forward.

Actually if they wanted to make laws and by laws about it, then they could. As it sits right now, no they can't. But that is also the reason I said if they wanted to do something to make it fair across the board.

You cannot tell me that if one conference is getting say 20% more than another conference that there is not an advantage there for the conference making more money.

There is a reason the Big 12 has been better than the mid majors. It is about money and tv revenue. If the SEC grows and is able to get every school almost 30 million a year, that would put a huge leg up on all other conferences.

Basically what it suggests is if you dont have the TV sets then you are relegated to yesterday's news...and frankly that is not fair or the way college athletics should be ran!

Which is also true about OU and OSU.

But it still doesnt help that OU and OSU are in a state where their are less TV sets than there is in Houston or Dallas alone.

If they wanted to they could but right now they can't. Right. You know what you're talking about...

I don't want to go to 12 teams, but if we do, I hope that the additional teams are in the Big 12 North. If they aren't, I am afraid that we will be in the north. That will not be good for us, at all.

If we go to 12 teams we need to lose the North/South division orientation. Put OU and Texas in separate divisions, and put us in the division with Texas, with Bedlam being a permanent cross-division game. That way we keep our best recruiting tool, playing UT every year, and our biggest rivalry. Best of both worlds for us.

It won't happen. But I can dream.

Is there a pill for that?

A lot of them end up in Pittsburgh as well.