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Holgorsen Has Already Had as Many as Six Alcohol Related Incidents at West Virginia

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  1. OSUFirepolak

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    Re: Holgorsen Has Already Had as Many as Six Alcohol Related Incidents at West Virgin

    Of couse they did. But there is no way the press in this State would extend that same courtesy to ANY coach at Oklahoma State. If they could have found any dirt to write about Holgerson last season they would have used it in a heartbeat.
     
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    Then how do you account for all the rumors--including the ones mentioned on this and other boards--and not even a whisper in the press? And, BTW, how do you account for the difference in West Virginia?
     
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    Those weren't his. He's a Michelob Ultra guy.
     
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    Rumors on message boards are one thing.... documented run-ins with police are something completely different. There is absolutely nothing against the law or even controversal about a grown man going out to bars and drinking. And that is about the extent of any "rumors" that were floating about about DH while he was at OSU. The press in this state might not have talked about any "rumors" but if he had been involved with ANYTHING that had been close to what he done recently at WVU, the Oklahoma press would have been all over it. To think overwise is foolish.

    And can you honestly sit there and claim at any "covering" the Oklahoma Press MIGHT have done for Holgerson would be on par for what they must have done for Switzer back in the 80s? Give me a freakin' break. One was the HC at the powerhouse program in the state and he won 3 National Championships. The other was OC for ONE year at the school that just recently started taking football seriously about a decade ago.

    That's not hard math.
     
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    Yeah and it is no where close to being on the same level as Oklahoma and Texas.

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    bottom is here.
     
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    Football is huge in West Virginia. Huge. Open a history book and you would know that.
     
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    You're wrong..... West Virginia has an extremely passionate fan base, go to game and you'll see what he means. It may not be part of the youth/secondary culture with colossal wastes of money on high school stadiums and indoor practice facilities but they pack the stands for WVU games because it's the only game in the state.

    Just go listen to 60K sing country roads after a win and you'll see what he is talking about.

    And they are passionate enough about it to not care if they score 43 a game.
     
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    West Virginia has a very passionate fan base. I don't think you really know what you are talking about.
     
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    I see, you haven't been there. I have spent a few months or so there over the last ten years. I don't care if you are in the big cities or way up in the mountains, during the season or in the off season, all those people talk about are football and hunting.

    In fact they talk about football more on average than people in Texas. Tons of people in Texas don't care about football. That isn't true in West Virginia. Oklahoma has more football talk than Texas in my experience and West Virginia even more than Oklahoma.

    I like the state of West Virginia. It's beautiful and I really like the people I have dealt with there.
     
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    One of my buddies is an 'Eer fan, and he hates uo.


    Passionate enough for me:D
     
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    First of all, I am not talking about breaking the law or run-ins with the police. I am talking about typically staying out until the wee hours of the morning the night before a game and stuff like that. And by the way, what Holgorsen did in West Virginia was not against the law either. So why are the West Virginia press making such a big deal about it?

    With regard to Switzer, do you have an example of a run-in with the police that the local press covered up. So far as I know, all the press ever covered up for Switzer was his partying with his teams and messing around with co-eds. Stuff like that.
     
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    Holgerson caused enough of a disturbance to warrant being escorted out by police. Now they are saying he's done something like that up to 6 times since he's been there and he's only been there since the beginning of the year. That is the reason the West Virginia press is making such a big deal about it. There also might be some hard feelings by some in the WV media with how the current HC at WVU was treated... but I don't know about that.

    And I have no idea how Barry Switzer lived his life and I don't really care. And I also have no idea what Dana Holgerson did or how he behaved while he was in Stillwater. However I still believe it is absurb to think for one second that the treatment the sports media in Oklahoma would give a guy like Dana Holgerson is even close to how they must of tip-toed around Barry Switzer back in his HC days at OU.
     
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    Re: Holgorsen Has Already Had as Many as Six Alcohol Related Incidents at West Virgin

    For those of you who think scoring 42 pts per game at Houston is impressive did any of you bother to check what happened when they played a real team?

    Air Force crushed them up in the Armed Forces Bowl in 2009 and intercepted Keenum 6 times. This guy was never Heisman material. A complete clown who played against very sub-par defenses. Air Force had an average defense at best that year. I guess Holgorsen should have called less pass plays.

    Here is the link to the game:
    http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=293652005
     
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    Case Keenun is a quality QB. Anyone can have a bad day. But anyone who can pass for over 5000 yards in a season had a few good days also. It will be interesting to see how well he does this year.
     
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    Bad day? It was the most interceptions ever in a bowl game = worst performance ever. So there is no way he should have ever been even remotely considered for a Heisman. Notice how every time they played a decent team they got beat, which is why they never got higher than 20 or so in the polls.
     
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    Some lucky school will get him as an OC sooner rather than later. Damn it all.
     
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    You might want to take a look at who was calling the plays and what he was doing until the wee hours of the morning the night before the game. :D

    Heck, I don't know. Shit happens. Air Force dominated the game and held the ball more than 41 minutes. I didn't watch that game, but I have seen Holgorsen's tendencies in our games this past season and my guess is that when Houston finally got the ball, Holgorsen became so intent on a quick score that he threw caution to the wind and embarrassed his QB.

    Also since the Air Force defense hardly saw the field the whole game, they were rested and ready to go when they finally did. Sort of reminds me of the bedlam game last year. We were effective running the ball early and might have won that way, but Holgorsen doesn't like to grind it out and when OU got ahead and started playing a control game, Holgorsen went for a high risk response.

    From what I read in the recap you linked, I would tend to lay the blame for that loss at the feet of Holgorsen, not Keenun.
     
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    Don't need to know history lesson on football in WV. I was born and raised there. Lived there for over 20 years, so I'm pretty sure I know what footbally is like in WV.

    First, I have been along with VT, UVA, and TN. Tn was the best excluding when FSU came to Blacksburg.

    Second, Oklahoma and Texas is a thousand times bigger into secondary and youth sports, so there light years ahead of WV in football.

    Again grew up there.

    First, wrong!

    Second, wrong! During hunting season it's all about hunting season. Not as much about football.


    I hate to tell you but Va is more about football than WV, and Tn is bigger than both of them.
     
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    What is it with the Holgerson hate.....he did a phenomenal job last year....he is one of if not the best OC in the country.

    Did anyone watch our offense last year......did anyone watch a QB play like a QB and not look to sideline before every move.....did you all not enjoy 40+ points a game?

    He is a young coach who likes the booze.....hasn't been arrested, hasn't had a driving incident, hasn't beat on a woman or anything. We have a forum here for "intoxicology". Our basketball court is named after a recovering alcoholic who crashed into a lady while gooned and we speak of him like a god....and heck I hope they put a statue of the guy in front of GIA.

    He was here....he got a better offer.....he left under good terms......he did a great job and was a HUGE part of our success last year....he likes booze....who cares.
     
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    No hate. I just don't think he was that great. I think any OC is likely to do well with the kind of material we had last year. He was a gambler and when you have a good hand, gambles usually pay off.

    I don't particularly like the Fedora offense, either, but it has one advantage that nobody mentions. It forces the defense to hurry up and wait. That sort of thing can wear on a defense. They have to hurry because of the possibility of a quick snap. This give the offense an advantage. Nevermind how it looks. On the other hand, the Holgorsen offense is perfect for getting an opposing defense off the field, so that they are rested and ready to go the next time they see the field.

    My personal preference is a pro-set offense such as the one I expect Monken to develop and implement in the next couple of years, the kind that is designed to wear a defense down.

    About the booze thing and Holgorsen, I would note that West Virginia seems to think that his activities have embarrassed the university and the state. If it had happened here, we (or at least some of us) would have been embarrassed. I am just glad that he is their problem and not ours.
     

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