How is Oklahoma doing as a state?

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OrangeFan69

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I was born in Tulsa and moved out full time in 2004. I have been back for a months (had a mother who was passing away, and worked on a political campaign) at a time, but haven't lived there full time since.

I get a skewed view from afar, but I was wondering what the overall happiness level is like?

I notice a lot of finger pointing at Liberals ( I live in Los Angeles and am politically moderate - there are good people, jackasses and criminals in both sides - usually on the fringes) on this board and was curious about what are the high points of living in an overwhelmingly conservative state.

I catch an OSU home game ever now and then; the campus has changed dramatically - I'm a little concerned about student housing prices, in my experience college wasn't for living in luxury - I was also impressed with the Gathering Place.
 

StillwaterTownie

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Tulsa and especially Oklahoma City are doing fine. But most of the rest of Oklahoma is in stagnant shape at best with Durant and Stillwater being rare exceptions to the rule. In Stillwater, the grand opening of OSU's McKnight Center for the Performing Arts with performances by the New York Philharmonic Orchestra was a good source for happiness for now and the future.

Oklahoma City isn't nearly as conservative as rural Oklahoma, so happiness level there is very good from so many positive things going on, creating a lot of optimism for the future, for instance, the new Scissortail Park. On December 10, OKC voters will be happily voting YES for MAPS 4 to make city government yet bigger to the tune of nearly $1 billion. The Republican mayor supports it. Some people were pissed that it didn't include a new aquarium.
 
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Tulsa and especially Oklahoma City are doing fine. But most of the rest of Oklahoma is in stagnant shape at best with Durant and Stillwater being rare exceptions to the rule. In Stillwater, the grand opening of OSU's McKnight Center for the Performing Arts with performances by the New York Philharmonic Orchestra was a good source for happiness for now and the future.

Oklahoma City isn't nearly as conservative as rural Oklahoma, so happiness level there is very good from so many positive things going on, creating a lot of optimism for the future, for instance, the new Scissortail Park. On December 10, OKC voters will be happily voting YES for MAPS 4 to make city government yet bigger to the tune of nearly $1 billion. The Republican mayor supports it. Some people were pissed that it didn't include a new aquarium.
IMPOSTER!

Who are you? AND what did you do with our beloved Townie?!?!?? You untie him right this very minute, give him the keyboard back, and let him answer with condemnation of everything that is conservative Christian Oklahoma honesty and sincerity.
 

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IMPOSTER!

Who are you? AND what did you do with our beloved Townie?!?!?? You untie him right this very minute, give him the keyboard back, and let him answer with condemnation of everything that is conservative Christian Oklahoma honesty and sincerity.
How utterly absurd.

One of the most far Christian Right Oklahoma state senators, Silk, isn't running for reelection because he thinks Republican leadership at the State Capitol is too liberal for him. Good riddance!
 
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Oklahoma looks pretty good when take the ole gray dog to San Fran, LA, Chicago, Baltimore, or South Bend. Ck it out Townie, google Dr Ulrich Klopfer and the over 2400 little souls.
 

OrangeFan69

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We don't have tons of vagrants and poop on the streets and sidewalks here, so we must be doing something right.
If you are talking about skid row, yeah that's place is extremely 3rd world; and not exactly what the rest of the city and county look like.

For a point of reference:
Skid Row is 4 square miles.
Los Angeles is 503 square miles
Oklahoma is 70,000 square miles
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Oklahoma and Los Angeles both have 4 million people.

I doubt the most disgusting 4 square miles of Oklahoma is a fair representation of the entire state.
 

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If you are talking about skid row, yeah that's place is extremely 3rd world; and not exactly what the rest of the city and county look like.

For a point of reference:
Skid Row is 4 square miles.
Los Angeles is 503 square miles
Oklahoma is 70,000 square miles
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Oklahoma and Los Angeles both have 4 million people.

I doubt the most disgusting 4 square miles of Oklahoma is a fair representation of the entire state.
 
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I was born in Tulsa and moved out full time in 2004. I have been back for a months (had a mother who was passing away, and worked on a political campaign) at a time, but haven't lived there full time since.

I get a skewed view from afar, but I was wondering what the overall happiness level is like?

I notice a lot of finger pointing at Liberals ( I live in Los Angeles and am politically moderate - there are good people, jackasses and criminals in both sides - usually on the fringes) on this board and was curious about what are the high points of living in an overwhelmingly conservative state.

I catch an OSU home game ever now and then; the campus has changed dramatically - I'm a little concerned about student housing prices, in my experience college wasn't for living in luxury - I was also impressed with the Gathering Place.
Fair question, and I will try to give a fair response. Full disclosure; I am a Conservative. I used to think of myself as a fiscal conservative and a social moderate; however, as social dynamics change, I think of myself more and more as Conservative/Conservative. I am the first of my entire family tree to enjoy the benefit of an education, and also the first to be a registered "Republican", at a time when that was not so accepted. I have voted for some Democrats, but the Democrats that I voted for are not the same as today's "Democrats". That aside, this is my honest response to your question:

*In this "Conservative State", we still honor your personal political persuasion and religious beliefs without with minimal demands on your personal property, your Constitutional rights, your personal and individual pursuit of happiness and contentment . . . but OU is working diligently to change those aforementioned traits. We will still befriend you, as long as you reciprocate.
*In this "Conservative State", we still proudly recite the Pledge of Allegiance, we still value and honor tradition and culture. Men still open doors for women, we respect our elders, you will still hear "Yes Sir/Yes Ma'am", "No Sir/No Ma'am", "Thank You", "I'm sorry", "Please" and "Thank You!". We believe that history and culture are important. They not only provided definition to who we are, but they also provided direction for what we wish to be and wish not to be. Mind you, I am speaking true history and culture, not the Revisionist version of what someone wishes us to be.
* In this "Conservative State", we still believe that one's word is more binding than legal contracts, that one's work ethic and one's product are what constitutes one's legacy. We still (largely) believe that we REAP WHAT WE SOW, with respect to personal and professional endeavors and work ethic.
* In this "Conservative State", we believe that we have an obligation to help those who cannot help themselves, but that we have no obligation to assist those who chose not to help themselves. You will find no society more willing to assist you in a time of need, if only you prove that your are both grateful and willing to do all you can to help yourself.
* In this "Conservative State", you will find that, largely, in times of disaster and public misfortune, we are predominately disposed to tighten our boot straps, roll up our sleeves, tighten our cinches, and not only help ourselves, but even put the welfare others over our own, rather than raising the white flag and demanding that society and "the government" bail us out.

If these concepts frighten you or run counter to your personal convictions, you probably wouldn't enjoy it here. However, even if you follow the beat of a different drummer but are willing to RESPECT cultures, traditions, religious beliefs, political persuasions, and social diversity without condemnation . . . as long as you receive the same concessions, YOU WILL LOVE IT HERE IN OKLAHOMA!

I have had countless people, whether temporary visitors or permanent translocations, tell me how friendly and helpful the people of Oklahoma are. They are typically in disbelief and in awe of our welcoming and helpful nature. It is ironic, to me, that during the Great Depression so many "Okies" migrated out of State to seek a better life and now, today, so many are seeking to immigrate into Oklahoma for the very same reasons . . . to seek a "better life."
 

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We don't have tons of vagrants and poop on the streets and sidewalks here, so we must be doing something right.
If you are talking about skid row, yeah that's place is extremely 3rd world; and not exactly what the rest of the city and county look like.

For a point of reference:
Skid Row is 4 square miles.
Los Angeles is 503 square miles
Oklahoma is 70,000 square miles
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Oklahoma and Los Angeles both have 4 million people.

I doubt the most disgusting 4 square miles of Oklahoma is a fair representation of the entire state.
I had heard that skid row had grown even more than that.

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I was born in Tulsa and moved out full time in 2004. I have been back for a months (had a mother who was passing away, and worked on a political campaign) at a time, but haven't lived there full time since.

I get a skewed view from afar, but I was wondering what the overall happiness level is like?

I notice a lot of finger pointing at Liberals ( I live in Los Angeles and am politically moderate - there are good people, jackasses and criminals in both sides - usually on the fringes) on this board and was curious about what are the high points of living in an overwhelmingly conservative state.

I catch an OSU home game ever now and then; the campus has changed dramatically - I'm a little concerned about student housing prices, in my experience college wasn't for living in luxury - I was also impressed with the Gathering Place.
You live in LA and are worried about housing prices in Stillwater? Interesting.

BTW, have y’all figured out that bathroom thingy yet?


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According to some still living there, Oklahoma has become the coolest state.
Not just horse racing.
They’ve got the lottery.
Indian casinos with all gambling legal now including craps and roulette.
3.2 beer out. In excess of 3.2 now in. And COLD. And in grocery stores. Plus wines.
And there’s weed. And people using it.
Apparently even the nudie joints are really nude, but that’s here say.
Tattoos and piercings.
Honestly, I don’t who this Oklahoma you speak of is. It’s certainly not the one I remember.
 

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If you are talking about skid row, yeah that's place is extremely 3rd world; and not exactly what the rest of the city and county look like.

For a point of reference:
Skid Row is 4 square miles.
Los Angeles is 503 square miles
Oklahoma is 70,000 square miles
---------------------------------------------------------
Oklahoma and Los Angeles both have 4 million people.

I doubt the most disgusting 4 square miles of Oklahoma is a fair representation of the entire state.
Yeah, I am and we don't have one of those.
 

StillwaterTownie

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According to some still living there, Oklahoma has become the coolest state.
Not just horse racing.
They’ve got the lottery.
Indian casinos with all gambling legal now including craps and roulette.
3.2 beer out. In excess of 3.2 now in. And COLD. And in grocery stores. Plus wines.
And there’s weed. And people using it.
Apparently even the nudie joints are really nude, but that’s here say.
Tattoos and piercings.
Honestly, I don’t who this Oklahoma you speak of is. It’s certainly not the one I remember.
It's just Oklahoma finally trying to make some serious headway in trying to keep up with the civilized states. Republicans at the State Capitol haven't been of much help in that regard, other than allowing people to vote YES on modernizing alcohol laws. The next citizen led project to get Oklahoma to keep up is bringing more Medicaid to the state, likely to be voted on in 2020.
 
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Though Oklahoma has always been considered a more religious state, church membership and attendance has declined. But after new laws go into effect Nov. 1, there’s at least a possibility that more people will be in the pews.

Pew! Pew! Pew!
 

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One positive for Okla., Prez for life with impeccable DeepState roots, Sweet Davy Boren has been exposed. Just another exposed in era of our outsider Prez T R U M P.