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We continue to play lethargic at GIA. We had one dose of good energy right before the 12min mark of the second half. The group that was in at that moment was our youth team. We are very poor on offense when we do not play with energy because we struggle to score in the half court.

Last night our scouting or player discipline was terrible. To let McClung get that many clean looks at the 3pt line. We get ourselves a 5pt lead, and then we let him have 3 open looks in a row for a 9-0 run. It really shouldn't be that difficult for a college team to always know where one guy is.They weren't even running offense to him when he was getting open. He had 15pts at half. So if you undervalued him in the scout, then the adjustment should have been made at half time instead of allowing him to cook us.
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Yes, our half court offense needs to improve. I would like Boynton to bring back some of the spread/pinwheel just to create a little more movement. Our 4out1in hasn't been very good. We have had some successful sets but without Ice, those sets are not as good with Lindy on the ball.

If Ice is out for an extended period of time, this will be time for our young guys to develop (Anderson and Harris). And maybe it helps us find an identity on offense.
Last night we had no one who could beat their man off the dribble except Anderson & he doesn’t have enough minutes to understand rotation and speed of the game yet. A lot of Georgetown’s open looks were the exact opposite. We got beat off the dribble for a kick out and maybe got one guy to rotate but as noted above they made the extra pass.
 

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We continue to play lethargic at GIA. We had one dose of good energy right before the 12min mark of the second half. The group that was in at that moment was our youth team. We are very poor on offense when we do not play with energy because we struggle to score in the half court.

Last night our scouting or player discipline was terrible. To let McClung get that many clean looks at the 3pt line. We get ourselves a 5pt lead, and then we let him have 3 open looks in a row for a 9-0 run. It really shouldn't be that difficult for a college team to always know where one guy is.They weren't even running offense to him when he was getting open. He had 15pts at half. So if you undervalued him in the scout, then the adjustment should have been made at half time instead of allowing him to cook us.
Yeah chief. You know our point guard didnt play who is a bigtime point guard. His name is Issac Likele. He is bigtime on both ends. A point guard makes a team go.
 
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You better hope Boynton is serious about the cowboy culture. Because if he's not and he's steeped in problems like Lamont is, they're going to get uncovered and then guess what you won't have any basketball to watch because you know we'll get some kind of hammer down on us and we will suck for decades to come.

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Innocent until proven guilty should over rule cowboy culture. Guilty until proven innocent is a big a farce as democratic socialism IMSHO.
 
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Yeah chief. You know our point guard didnt play who is a bigtime point guard. His name is Issac Likele. He is bigtime on both ends. A point guard makes a team go.
I am very aware. Ice is a really nice player. He was also playing in the games we struggled to get by ORU, Yale and Western Michigan. Georgetown, even with missing two guys, were far more talented than those three teams.

Syracuse was terrible in transition defense and Ole Miss turned the ball over 20 times and shot 26%, both leading us to more transition baskets. There are a lot of positives about this team, but half court offense, with or without Ice, is currently an issue. I am sure our coaching staff is fully aware of this and working diligently to solve it.

For whatever reason, our energy at home has been subpar and we don't get as many steals and transition baskets. Regardless, when we get to conference, we will find ourselves in many grind it out half court games. So, we need to solve the half court offense problem by then.
 

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I am very aware. Ice is a really nice player. He was also playing in the games we struggled to get by ORU, Yale and Western Michigan. Georgetown, even with missing two guys, were far more talented than those three teams.

Syracuse was terrible in transition defense and Ole Miss turned the ball over 20 times and shot 26%, both leading us to more transition baskets. There are a lot of positives about this team, but half court offense, with or without Ice, is currently an issue. I am sure our coaching staff is fully aware of this and working diligently to solve it.

For whatever reason, our energy at home has been subpar and we don't get as many steals and transition baskets. Regardless, when we get to conference, we will find ourselves in many grind it out half court games. So, we need to solve the half court offense problem by then.
When we get to conference play, the crowds will be better. That will help.
 

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I am very aware. Ice is a really nice player. He was also playing in the games we struggled to get by ORU, Yale and Western Michigan. Georgetown, even with missing two guys, were far more talented than those three teams.

Syracuse was terrible in transition defense and Ole Miss turned the ball over 20 times and shot 26%, both leading us to more transition baskets. There are a lot of positives about this team, but half court offense, with or without Ice, is currently an issue. I am sure our coaching staff is fully aware of this and working diligently to solve it.

For whatever reason, our energy at home has been subpar and we don't get as many steals and transition baskets. Regardless, when we get to conference, we will find ourselves in many grind it out half court games. So, we need to solve the half court offense problem by then.
When we get to conference play, the crowds will be better. That will help.
Georgetown was nearly 9000. The problem is that even at times when the kids are being loud on defense (or other times), the rest of the crowd seems to be sitting on their hands. I mean say we're coming back from being 10 under and we've got it within 1 all of a sudden the crowd gets loud finally but everytime else it's the students mainly they're making some noise and they're not even making noise very much cuz you've got the ones in the hundreds that are engaged and then it seems like all the students that are in the two hundreds are just kind of sitting there.

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I think GIA being back could help. It used to be worth at least one 10-0 spurt per game back in the day.

I think we just have to figure out what we can run that fits our personnel. It's tough because it's like we have two different teams...the young athletic group, and the seasoned, 3pt shooting vets.
 
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Anei not playing much was the difference in rebounding and defense. He cleans up and hides mistakes by the backcourt defense (Dziagwa) by protecting the rim. He got 3 fouls away from the basketball that could have been avoided.
 
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I think GIA being back could help. It used to be worth at least one 10-0 spurt per game back in the day.

I think we just have to figure out what we can run that fits our personnel. It's tough because it's like we have two different teams...the young athletic group, and the seasoned, 3pt shooting vets.
You’d think that would benefit us, ala “Pick your poison.”
 
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Yeah chief. You know our point guard didnt play who is a bigtime point guard. His name is Issac Likele. He is bigtime on both ends. A point guard makes a team go.
Their best player didn’t play either. The guys played with no sense of urgency and using Ice‘s absence is an excuse. Yes he would have impacted the game but so would their top scorer. Instead we let McClung look like an all world player.

HCMB can’t have those types of games when he’s trying to fill that building back up. Remember when we never lost to non-conference teams at home? Guaranteed we had players injured during that run as well. The fans are/were chomping at the bit and the team played flat and uninspired. Even then had a chance to win. Just have to get over that hump. This was just a missed opportunity, have to do better against the Shockers. They aren’t the same team but it’s still a known brand like Georgetown.
 
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Georgetown was nearly 9000. The problem is that even at times when the kids are being loud on defense (or other times), the rest of the crowd seems to be sitting on their hands. I mean say we're coming back from being 10 under and we've got it within 1 all of a sudden the crowd gets loud finally but everytime else it's the students mainly they're making some noise and they're not even making noise very much cuz you've got the ones in the hundreds that are engaged and then it seems like all the students that are in the two hundreds are just kind of sitting there.

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The crowds have as much work to do in order to regain the glory of GIA as the product on the floor. I drove up from Dallas for the KU football and Yale basketball game. Most of the “older” fans around me looked like they wanted to be back in the assisted living retirement centers.......just an observation.

I’d love for them to reorganize the students and pack them in close to the floor ala Cameron indoor.
 

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Their best player didn’t play either. The guys played with no sense of urgency and using Ice‘s absence is an excuse. Yes he would have impacted the game but so would their top scorer. Instead we let McClung look like an all world player.

HCMB can’t have those types of games when he’s trying to fill that building back up. Remember when we never lost to non-conference teams at home? Guaranteed we had players injured during that run as well. The fans are/were chomping at the bit and the team played flat and uninspired. Even then had a chance to win. Just have to get over that hump. This was just a missed opportunity, have to do better against the Shockers. They aren’t the same team but it’s still a known brand like Georgetown.
why is everyone acting like the McClung kid is some scrub. dude can ball and has been for a long time. we aren't the only team that he's gonna light up this year...... ya, we left him too open a couple of times, but he's a damn good basketball player............
 

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Their best player didn’t play either. The guys played with no sense of urgency and using Ice‘s absence is an excuse. Yes he would have impacted the game but so would their top scorer. Instead we let McClung look like an all world player.

HCMB can’t have those types of games when he’s trying to fill that building back up. Remember when we never lost to non-conference teams at home? Guaranteed we had players injured during that run as well. The fans are/were chomping at the bit and the team played flat and uninspired. Even then had a chance to win. Just have to get over that hump. This was just a missed opportunity, have to do better against the Shockers. They aren’t the same team but it’s still a known brand like Georgetown.
why is everyone acting like the McClung kid is some scrub. dude can ball and has been for a long time. we aren't the only team that he's gonna light up this year...... ya, we left him too open a couple of times, but he's a damn good basketball player............
And not a freshman.

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Coach needs to ditch that awful ZONE defense. The kids can't make it work! YOR was just awful the other night! Way over the top emotionally. He was crazy hyper.
 
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why is everyone acting like the McClung kid is some scrub. dude can ball and has been for a long time. we aren't the only team that he's gonna light up this year...... ya, we left him too open a couple of times, but he's a damn good basketball player............
i don’t think he’s a scrub, I think he embarrassed HCMB. We never made an adjustment or change to try and limit him. Instead we let him light us up to borrow your words.
 

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I am very aware. Ice is a really nice player. He was also playing in the games we struggled to get by ORU, Yale and Western Michigan. Georgetown, even with missing two guys, were far more talented than those three teams.

Syracuse was terrible in transition defense and Ole Miss turned the ball over 20 times and shot 26%, both leading us to more transition baskets. There are a lot of positives about this team, but half court offense, with or without Ice, is currently an issue. I am sure our coaching staff is fully aware of this and working diligently to solve it.

For whatever reason, our energy at home has been subpar and we don't get as many steals and transition baskets. Regardless, when we get to conference, we will find ourselves in many grind it out half court games. So, we need to solve the half court offense problem by then.
Yale is a NCAA tournament team. Central Michigan might be as well.