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Sooners are going to start bringing in more "character" guys.....or not

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    soonerchris1985 Wrangler

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    But wow look what i found.
    http://www.dmv.org/tx-texas/automotive-law/dui.php
    Penalties

    Before we even start, we should point out that if a law enforcement officer asks you to submit to a breath or blood test to determine the alcohol content of your blood, and if you refuse, your license will probably be taken away from you on the spot and suspended for six months. This is in addition to any suspension you might get later if you're convicted of DWI.
    Below are the basic penalties for various DWI violations. However, in addition to these, DWI convictions carry an additional financially devastating penalty called conviction-based surcharges. This is an ongoing additional fine that must be paid each year for three years, and it can run you thousands of dollars. We discuss this program more fully in our article about the driver license point system.
    Drivers 21 and Over

    • First offense:

    • Up to a $2,000 fine
    • Possibly 72 hours to 180 days in jail

    • Second offense:

    • Up to a $4,000 fine
    • Thirty days to one year in jail
    • Driver license suspension: 180 days to two years

    • Third offense:

    • Up to a $10,000 fine
    • Two to 10 years behind bars
    • Driver's license suspension: 180 days to two years
    Drivers Under 21

    The threshold for an alcohol-related driving conviction is lower for drivers under 21. If you're not of legal drinking age, then it's against the law to operate a vehicle with any measurable amount of alcohol in your blood (this is what "zero tolerance" refers to). If you're busted for driving after having had only one beer, here's what can happen to you the first time:
    • Any measurable amount of alcohol:

    • Up to a $500 fine
    • Twenty to 40 hours of community service
    • Mandatory attendance in alcohol-awareness classes

    • BAC of 0.08% or higher:

    • If you're caught driving with a BAC of 0.08% or higher and you're under 21, you can count on the same DWI penalties as apply to those over 21 (see above), plus a conviction for underage drinking.
    Driving With a Child

    Driving drunk with a child passenger is considered a felony. If caught, your license will be immediately suspended.
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    OSUCowboy787 Wrangler

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    you found it too!!!:popcorn::runaway:
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    It's not the same though. I'm half kidding which is why I added the ;) to the end. But, the truth of the Blackmon thing is that no one has any actual proof that he was drunk. You can make a legitimate assumption, but if he were legitimately drunk, the cop should have given him the more serious ticket don't you think? Therefore, we can deduce that he was speeding home with drunk buddies in the car who emitted an odor of alcohol - best case scenario - but probably had a little something to drink earlier in the evening. Either way, I was just pointing out that it was not a DUI. :D

    For the record, I don't really care about this dude screaming at a peace officer, or police officer, or neighborhood watchman.
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    soonerchris1985 Wrangler

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    LOL. I really cannot take you serious.
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    I dont care about Blackmon doing what he did, and dont think its that big of deal. I'm just saying these things are different, and a DWI or DUI is worse than yelling at a cop.

    But I also think both are stupid. Driving drunk and hell even speeding can hurt someone else, yelling a cop may only hurt your pocket book and the cops pride a little.
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    yeah i'm just trolling the B&F today, bored at work :whistle:
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    soonerchris1985 Wrangler

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    I figured as much. I normally think is funny and feed the troll.
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    Haha.. I lived in Reno in 2010. The cops arrested the Nevada kicker who booted the game winner against Boise State for DUI before that season. They don't care who you are.
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    Yeah, I doubt this was the reason....maybe it was OSU didn't need an immediate fix at WR? Or maybe it is because OSU rarely goes after WR JUCO players?

    Either way, his attitude in this situation was handled much like it has been by hundreds or more kids in his shoes.

    Was it the right way? No...but let's not hang the kid just yet. Remember the Blackmon DUI thing? Lest we throw stones.....
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    What about assault on an officer (Pettigrew) or a DUI after getting to watch a free Cowboy's game (Blackmon).

    This is a two way street my friend.
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    No matter how many times you say it Blackmon didn't get a DUI.
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    And for anyone that wants to say crap....

    Don't throw stones, we all live in a

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    DWI, DUI, whats the difference? The fact is, his offense, along with Pettigrew's was much more than what this one is.

    And I am by no means condoning what he did or how he handled it. Just a minor screw up that many kids, athlete or not, have faced.
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    In Texas it's pretty significant. A minor can be given a DWI once the "odor of alcohol" is detected by an officer. In this case, without a breathalyzer, you have no idea whether Blackmon had any alcohol in his system or if they wanted to haul him in for doing 90+ mph.

    I've already said the most likely scenario was that he had probably had something to drink in the 6 hours before at the game or some such other activity - he wasn't drunk. If he were drunk he would have been given a DUI. If he was "driving drunk" and didn't get a DUI the cop screwed up.

    So, it is a bit dishonest to say he was "driving drunk". All we know is that he was pulled over and given a DWI because a cop smelled alcohol in the car - hell, he may have been the DD for all you know, not altogether unlikely as the charges never went anywhere to my recollection.

    Pettigrew's deal was his own stupidity and immaturity - go figure, someone being a dumbass while drunk.

    This OU kid's little run in isn't a big deal either. I'm just taking exception with OU fans claiming Blackmon was given a DUI or drunk driving, because they have no way of knowing if that's what happened.
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    So what is the likelihood of him getting all the bells and whistles thrown at him by his good friend Dez and being at a Cowboy game without drinking?

    What is the likelihood that he did not drink even one beer or one shot of whiskey?

    I would say it was very unlikely. And considering the offense took place well after the game was over... If memory serves me correctly, around 2 AM...the likelihood that Blackmon had no alcohol to drink is minimal at best.

    One of your brethren, brought up the statement that the car smelled like the odor of Marijuana. Does this mean he smoked it?

    What if he didnt? I mean, afterall, Blackmon didnt drink or wasn't drunk...LOL

    Just remember, if it sounds like a duck and it looks like a duck, it is likely a duck!
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    An argument that would definitely hold up in a court of law. :rolleyes:
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    Well, thank god this isn't a court of law...it is the court of public opinion and perception!

    Only the very gullible/naive would think that Blackmon wasn't drinking that night, nor Gardner smoking weed.

    Yes, I know some that would be around it but not do it. I had friends smoke weed, but I would not do it myself.

    I would drink a few beers, but have sober friends.

    But I do know this much, most sober people wouldn't get belligerent with a law officer.

    And experiencing drunks as a part time job, while going to school (younger years, not recently), as a bouncer at a club, I can tell you that people that are intoxicated will become belligerent with any authority figure.
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    Must have been a pretty gullible cop...or maybe he just didn't care that Blackmon was drunk. :rolleyes:

    The only evidence we have says the cop didn't think he was "drunk". He would have been given a breathalyzer and a DUI if he were drunk, unless the cop failed to do his job. I actually have evidence to support why I believe what I believe, you have no evidence to support your claims. Casting aside bias, if he didn't get charged with a DUI how could you logically assert he was "drunk"? I'm curious what insights into the incident you have that the arresting officer did not?

    Like I said, for the second and now third time in this thread, I personally think he may have had something at some point during the evening - but the facts of the arrest lead me to my conclusion that he wasn't "drunk" like Sooner fans want to believe.

    Also, I'm curious why you care about him being at a Dallas game for free?
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    the funniest part is the kid said to the cop, "hey I'm a D1 football player"
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    You do know you can still be drinking without being drunk, right?

    No real issue for him being in Dallas for a Cowgirls game.

    But I will say this, kind of ludacris for him to be coming home so late (or early) on a school night with the scent of alcohol in the vehicle.

    I really dont care if he was drunk or not....doesn't mean Gardner was high or actually being belligerent to an officer. Some cops get upset when you bat an eye the wrong way.

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