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How is that an "f'n joke"? I legit don't know who is to blame for what. Not sure very many people actually know anything except Holder and Underwood. My opinion, based on what I've read, Holder's past and present decisions, and the little I gathered about Underwood, is that Holder was gun shy after the Ford contract and came across as either a lowballer or gave the impression that OSU wasn't committed to hoops and that Underwood took offense and bolted on principle. Could be the Underwood was being a petty b*tch. Could be that Holder was an a-hole. Could be both. Again.....none of us really knows with 100% certainty what happened.
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You don't understand?
"Holder basically compounded his original mistake by getting gun shy with the next move. It's like a QB that throws an INT, then let's that rattle them for the rest of the game. The best ones know how to maintain their composure and not let a past mistake dictate their play going forward. Holder has now made three bad decisions in a row with our basketball coach.
Now........mistakes happen. I get it. And circumstances have created a LOT of really difficult scenarios. But he's the AD of a D1 program, and gets paid a lot to make those tough decisions, and so far he's botched it BADLY."
Perhaps you should read your own posts. I'm not the guy screaming in caps, unequivocally, about how much I know about how Holder "botched it BADLY", only to come around & say 'eh, who knows?"
It needs to be deleted and should have never been posted. Coach has recruited a top 20 class for next year (his 3rd recruiting class) which will go higher if JT Thor signs. You have to give him at least next year to see what he can do, and threads like this don't help recruiting.
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I'm on board with this. Heck, even winning 4 of 9 would at least give me a sliver of hope for next season.
What I really would like to see going into next season though, is a total revamp of the offense. A system that relies less on ball screens and dribbling, and more on screens off the ball, screening for the screener, and back cuts. Against a zone, extremely quick ball reversals along the perimeter with dribble penetration timed up to use the momentum of defenders against themselves. None of this pass, hold the ball for three or four seconds, and then pass again... None of this trying to use the dribble to set up the pass. Use the pass to set up the pass.
I also don't like and don't get how much zone D we've played this year. I think MB should go back to a more traditional man defense, more along the lines of what we played primarily his first season as coach when Carroll, Solomon, and Smith were running people out of the gym the back half of that season.
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Well, totally disagree with that...... what we have run on offense for the majority of the year is mindbogglingly bad basketball. Lack of screens off the ball, lack of screening for the screener, lack of movement away from the ball, too many ball screens, too much dribbling, not enough quick ball reversals that require a second pass immediately after the first pass. It doesn't take pro talent to do these. It doesn't take pro talent to at least be in the running for the NIT.....
And, as far as defense goes, I think the reason he's running so much zone is he knows we don't have the athleticism to play the passing lanes like what he wants. But, we really backed off of playing the passing lanes a lot the final half of his final season as an assistant, and his first year as HC. I wish we would go back to that. Instead, he's really tried to do exactly what Ford tried to do. Establish multiple defenses to blend into the flow of a game, but we end up not excelling at any of them. In other words, we have no identity on D now.
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And for the record I’m not going to continue to support last in the big 12. This year has been majorly disappointing, but what concerns me more than anything is the player turnover. I think a coach deserves to develop his own players, but another year of lack luster performance and high turnover and I’ll be ready to move on, but I will NEVER be in the bring Doug home camp
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Yep. If we start playing as a team and guys start to get back toward their potential there will be some hope that it was just a rough patch for a new coach. If we end up 2-16 in conference play then 
