The Ocasio-Cortez Thread

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I believe you may be confusing dictatorships with some of these countries. I'm confident dictatorships of any kind are undesirable.

How would you classify Australia, Canada, Netherlands, and New Zealand?
Four second rate countries?
Four extremely white countries?
Four countries where people die of cancer more often?
Countries that would not exist without free market systems or the United States to protect them.

All of the "dictatorships" I named started with visionary "democratic socialists" who nationalized industries and blew up the welfare state until their economies collapsed. Then, the dictating started.
 

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Four second rate countries?
Four extremely white countries?
Four countries where people die of cancer more often?
Countries that would not exist without free market systems or the United States to protect them.

All of the "dictatorships" I named started with visionary "democratic socialists" who nationalized industries and blew up the welfare state until their economies collapsed. Then, the dictating started.
Russia and North Korea were rebounding from War when their socialized dictatorships started and have historically always been kingdom-dictator driven. I do believe when reconstructing after domestically fought war, Collective action is best for an immediate time before being tempered down toward decentralization Cuba was going through an economic crisis because of going with the Russians and nationalizing US investments because they felt exploited, I'm not sure if the Russians exploited Cuba as much as US MNC's, but the removal of foreign capital did leave Cuba underdeveloped.

I'll agree Nicaragua was a dictatorship disguised as Socialism. But it was also a population that didn't have two pennies to rub together in the first place. Compared to other countries in the region in the 90's I don't know that Socialism was the cause of it's troubles.

Australia, Netherlands, New Zealand and Canada are widely considered socialized countries that still maintain a capitalistic economy. All four have moderately higher life expectancies.

I'm not sure what you are claiming about with the US protecting them?
 
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Russia and North Korea were rebounding from War when their socialized dictatorships started and have historically always been kingdom-dictator driven. I do believe when reconstructing after domestically fought war, Collective action is best for an immediate time before being tempered down toward decentralization Cuba was going through an economic crisis because of going with the Russians and nationalizing US investments because they felt exploited, I'm not sure if the Russians exploited Cuba as much as US MNC's, but the removal of foreign capital did leave Cuba underdeveloped.

I'll agree Nicaragua was a dictatorship disguised as Socialism. But it was also a population that didn't have two pennies to rub together in the first place. Compared to other countries in the region in the 90's I don't know that Socialism was the cause of it's troubles.

Australia, Netherlands, New Zealand and Canada are widely considered socialized countries that still maintain a capitalistic economy. All four have moderately higher life expectancies.

I'm not sure what you are claiming about with the US protecting them?
Let me boil that down:

Countries with large government-dependent underclasses and outside geopolitical threats collapse or turn dictatorship under socialism.

Homogeneous middle-class and wealthy capitalist countries that lean socialist lead the world in mediocrity.

No thanks.
 

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Let me boil that down:

Countries with large government-dependent underclasses and outside geopolitical threats collapse or turn dictatorship under socialism.

Homogeneous middle-class and wealthy capitalist countries that lean socialist lead the world in mediocrity.

No thanks.
I believe Tax equality and Medical care reform are important; but I do agree that across the board socialism would be harmful to the United States.

I don't believe Sanders is proposing across the board socialism. I do absolutely believe that he leans more socialistic than most Democrats and especially more than Republicans, but is still not proposing across the board socialism.
 

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Aside from the Green New Deal, I'm not aware of many of her stances outside of traditional Democratic left. As a left leaning moderate, I consider Pelosi, Schumer to be more in touch with most Democrats and Bernie Sanders when they want a more fiery soundbyte.

It's interesting when you see how much more Fox News talks about Ocasio-Cortez than most media outlets.
Are you trying to say that she hasn't become a national figure?
And forget the Fox News BS, she get's more national coverage than any other frosh Rep, and more than most established politicians, both in print and tv.
 
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I believe Tax equality and Medical care reform are important; but I do agree that across the board socialism would be harmful to the United States.

I don't believe Sanders is proposing across the board socialism. I do absolutely believe that he leans more socialistic than most Democrats and especially more than Republicans, but is still not proposing across the board socialism.
According to the Bernie/AOC worldview, I don't pay enough taxes and I receive too much medical care.

So once again, no thanks.
 

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How many people in this thread live in AOC's District?

I don't, and I don't suspect many on this board do. It's weird that this many (mostly negative) responses to a Freshman congressional member.

Granted she does say a few obnoxious things, and she is more attractive than most Congress members, but it does seem like a lot of the outrage may be because many of the posters are being manipulated by the media.

I would expect more people on here (because of the obvious Conservative bias) praising someone like Dan Crenshaw than disparaging Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
I'm here mainly for the entertainment factor but also because she seems to be the voice of the Democrat base these days and I like to know where that base is.
 

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I believe Tax equality and Medical care reform are important; but I do agree that across the board socialism would be harmful to the United States.

I don't believe Sanders is proposing across the board socialism. I do absolutely believe that he leans more socialistic than most Democrats and especially more than Republicans, but is still not proposing across the board socialism.
According to The Manhattan Institute's (right leaning) review of Sanders proposals half of the US working population would be collecting their paycheck from the government. His proposals would add over $9 trillion a year in gov't spending, 70% of the country's GDP, and debt would explode in excess of $100 T.
 

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She grabs every soapbox she can get her hands on and says stupid $h!+

Nobody is afraid of her or worried about her, everyone is laughing at her. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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According to The Manhattan Institute's (right leaning) review of Sanders proposals half of the US working population would be collecting their paycheck from the government. His proposals would add over $9 trillion a year in gov't spending, 70% of the country's GDP, and debt would explode in excess of $100 T.
They don't care, people want perceived free stuff. They don't understand how it works. You take money from the top. Whats the old say "crap runs downhill". You start taking it from the top, what does the top 1% do. Well they have the flexibility to move, sort of like what happened when NAFTA happened.
 
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How many people in this thread live in AOC's District?

I don't, and I don't suspect many on this board do. It's weird that this many (mostly negative) responses to a Freshman congressional member.

Granted she does say a few obnoxious things, and she is more attractive than most Congress members, but it does seem like a lot of the outrage may be because many of the posters are being manipulated by the media.

I would expect more people on here (because of the obvious Conservative bias) praising someone like Dan Crenshaw than disparaging Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Her stance on the Amazon deal in her own state was stunningly naïve.
 

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Her stance on the Amazon deal in her own state was stunningly naïve.
Because she herself is "stunningly naïve". Literally nothing she has done or experienced in her young life has prepared her for the job she is currently in.

She's obviously and woefully in over her head... but that doesn't stop her from presenting unfeasible pipe dreams and saying stupid sh*t.
 

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I'm here mainly for the entertainment factor but also because she seems to be the voice of the Democrat base these days and I like to know where that base is.

Just 11 short years ago, I thought conservative republicans had lost their way and the party was doomed (If the search feature worked here you could go look it up), and now.......................

My how the worm has turned. The little precious kitty everyone was so proud of has turned into a cannibalistic she tiger, and is about to split the Democrat base into 2 parts. Batshit crazy socialists, and moderate sensible Americans. If she splits them, if will be a long time before either one of them win another national election.

This is just too funny.
 

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Just 11 short years ago, I thought conservative republicans had lost their way and the party was doomed (If the search feature worked here you could go look it up), and now.......................

My how the worm has turned. The little precious kitty everyone was so proud of has turned into a cannibalistic she tiger, and is about to split the Democrat base into 2 parts. Batshit crazy socialists, and moderate sensible Americans. If she splits them, if will be a long time before either one of them win another national election.

This is just too funny.
I see some of my friends supporting her on social media almost everyday. But any time people try to challenge the stance, it turns nasty really quickly. Basically, if you disagree with anything she says, you are automatically and forever labeled a heretic by her cult-like mob. I've long since stopped commenting on anything people post in support of her, because they're all delusional, bitter people. They just want free stuff for everyone, and destruction to anyone in their path.
 
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OAC walks into a bar and grabs a seat. The 10:00 news is on several of the TVs, all covering a guy threatening to jump off a high-rise.

Guy at the table next to her leans over and says, "I'll bet you $50 he jumps."

AOC promptly accepts the bet, puts down her money and a few moments later, the news cameras follow the jumper as he steps off the roof of the building.

Bar patron grins but pushes her $50 back to AOC and confesses, "I cannot take your money. I saw this story on the 5:00 news earlier today", to which AOC replies,

"Oh, I saw it too but did not think he would do it again!"