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Still not getting this either.
I’m single (divorced). Make a decent annual salary for a mid-level MFG exec in Oklahoma. Govt takes essentially a third of my paycheck every two weeks and I barely get any kind of a return come tax season. I’m not on any kind of Govt assistance.
But I have family (that I make 4x their annual earnings)... who chose not to go to college or learn a particular trade, or move from a very rural area, that are on full blown Govt assistance for medical insurance and food assistance programs and have drawn unemployment. Deal mainly in cash with their contracted jobs, pay very little taxes, and get full tax returns. For years.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad the assistance is there for them in a way. BUT, they also made their decision to not pursue college or any type of trade training NOR move to where better paying jobs are located.
They’ve drawn from Govt assistance substantially more than me.
I’m single (divorced). Make a decent annual salary for a mid-level MFG exec in Oklahoma. Govt takes essentially a third of my paycheck every two weeks and I barely get any kind of a return come tax season. I’m not on any kind of Govt assistance.
But I have family (that I make 4x their annual earnings)... who chose not to go to college or learn a particular trade, or move from a very rural area, that are on full blown Govt assistance for medical insurance and food assistance programs and have drawn unemployment. Deal mainly in cash with their contracted jobs, pay very little taxes, and get full tax returns. For years.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad the assistance is there for them in a way. BUT, they also made their decision to not pursue college or any type of trade training NOR move to where better paying jobs are located.
They’ve drawn from Govt assistance substantially more than me.
I'm very well aware of your examples. That has nothing to do with the vast majority of wealthy people. For the most part, you're talking about corporations. Corporations are owned by shareholders, of which, many people are owners-not just one. We all benefitted from these so-called handouts and we all aren't wealthy. Maybe if the government never took the money in the first place, we wouldn't have to concern ourselves with getting it back.
The government put most of these restrictions on us. Why should we have to pay for the vast majority of them? Why should we have to pay for a bunch of TSA agents to stand around watching each other provide security? Have you ever parked at an airport? Have you ever looked at all of the fees you pay when flying? Have you ever purchased food or drink at an airport? Have you rented a car at the airport? Have you stayed in a hotel near the airport? The taxes and fees are huge. They aren't hurting. When it comes to renovations or additions to the airport, the airline pays the vast majority of the bill. The local governments just sit there and take in all of the taxes.
Discussing that the government operates in ways that do no please you has nothing to do with my point that certain citizens (those with more money) benefit far more from air transport. Despite the fees you are complaining about, the general taxpayer funds also funds these services even if they never use an airport.
There’s nothing anecdotal about it, the types of benefits I’m referring to are doled out every day and they typically have a ‘material’ impact on the top % of %.
Let’s use @StillwaterTownie ’s favorite subject as another example. I assume we all agree that bankruptcy is a legal transaction regulated by the gvt, assuming there’s agreement on this can you explain why an ultra high net worth individual can file 13 but you, I’m going to assume your net worth is just south of $500M (the unwritten cutoff for ultra wealthy), can’t. As I tried, unsuccessfully evidently, to point out in my first post, the original comment was correct but it severely limited the definition of a gvt benefit. Food stamps and welfare are symptomatic of the disease even if you alleviate those symptoms the disease will march forward unaffected.
Let’s use @StillwaterTownie ’s favorite subject as another example. I assume we all agree that bankruptcy is a legal transaction regulated by the gvt, assuming there’s agreement on this can you explain why an ultra high net worth individual can file 13 but you, I’m going to assume your net worth is just south of $500M (the unwritten cutoff for ultra wealthy), can’t. As I tried, unsuccessfully evidently, to point out in my first post, the original comment was correct but it severely limited the definition of a gvt benefit. Food stamps and welfare are symptomatic of the disease even if you alleviate those symptoms the disease will march forward unaffected.
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