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Deere Poke

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...t-target-of-systemic-racism-claim-in-america/

National Parks Are Latest Target of Systemic Racism Claim in America
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Elements of the left are claiming now that America’s national parks are built on systemic racism.
“The outdoors and public lands suffer from the same systemic racism that the rest of our society does,” Joel Pannell, associate director of the Sierra Club, said in an ABC report, titled “America’s Great White Outdoors.” The report called the parks “stubborn bastions of self-segregation.”
“If we don’t address this, and we don’t see how all these things are interrelated, then we’re going to risk losing everything,” Pannell said. “You’re not going to have public lands to enjoy.”
The report is part of a wave of sometimes violent protests taking place across the nation after the death of George Floyd, a black man who was killed while being arrested by Minneapolis police on Memorial Day. All four officers involved in the arrest have been charged in the case.
ABC cited a National Park Service Study but did not link to it:
New government data, shared first with ABC News, shows the country’s premier outdoor spaces — the 419 national parks — remain overwhelmingly white. Just 23 percent of visitors to the parks were people of color, the National Park Service found in its most recent 10-year survey; 77 percent were white. Minorities make up 42 percent of the U.S. population.
The U.S. Census Bureau projects people of color will be a majority in America by 2044 — a demographic shift that will impact park attendance and finances. Community advocates say physical and mental health for minority communities is also at risk.​
Ironically ABC reached out to National Park Service Acting Director David Vela, President Donald Trump’s nominee for the post and the first Latino to hold the position. Vela has been at the NPS since 2017.
ABC confronted Vela with the racial data.
“That tells me that we’ve got a lot of work to do,” Vela said.
ABC said federal government officials and environmental activists both see the “racial disparity in the outdoors is an existential crisis.”
ABC interviewed minorities who are nonetheless enjoying the outdoors.
“I feel like nature is a right to everyone, and we should all feel safe enough to experience it,” Lauren Gay, a Tampa, Florida, mother told ABC. She has a blog and podcast called, “Outdoorsy Diva.”
“We need better ways to cope with stress, to cope with some level of trauma. We all have some level, honestly, of PTSD from a lot of the things we’ve lived through as people of color — and nature is a way to do that,” Gay said.
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“The future of our country is more and more diverse, … we’re going to have more people of color in this country than white people, but our parks, our green spaces, our conservation spaces, those demographics are remaining white,” Ambreen Tariq, creator of the “Brown People Camping” social media campaign, said in the ABC report.
She said she learned how to camp after her family moved to Minnesota from India.
“Still, racial profiling and stereotyping remain a big concern for Tariq and many people of color in the outdoors,” ABC reported.
“When I was a child, I felt like an outsider trying to gain entrance, except now I am American and this is my country,” she said.
“We are urging people who are maybe having this conversation for the first time to do the work. It’s not just about a moment. It’s about committing yourself to completely change your lifestyle,” Danielle Williams, a fourth-generation Army veteran who leads the “Diversify Outdoors” coalition, said in the ABC report.
“Lack of transportation to national parks and the cost of visiting were cited as the top reasons people — especially black and Hispanic Americans — don’t visit them more often, according to the study,” NBC reported. “Twice as many black and Hispanic Americans said they don’t know what to do in national parks than whites. When asked if they share the same interests as people who visit national parks, 34 percent of black respondents and 27 percent of Hispanics said no, compared with only 11 percent of whites.”
The ABC reported on efforts aimed at “diversifying the outdoors”:
Many advocates say public information about parks and outdoor activities are not tailored to communities of color. Posted signs, for example, are mostly in English rather than Spanish. Park ranger uniforms that resemble what is worn by law enforcement are intimidating to some immigrants and minorities in light of documented cases of profiling.​
Sierra Club’s Pannell said in the ABC report that the creation of national parks was racist.
“In many ways, they are created by removing indigenous people from those lands and creating refuges for more affluent white people to get away from the city, which were becoming black and brown,” Pannell said. “So we have to — we have to deal with that history and that legacy.”
“Vela said he recognizes that history and fear it instills and is developing strategies to combat it,” ABC reported.
“We have to be responsive to those needs and — and deal with those needs because they’re going to be different. And it’s going to require a different approach. And so, we have to own that,” Vela said.
“I think that as a person of color, I think that our national parks and what I’ve found, is opportunities to really reflect on the most difficult and challenging times in our nation’s history,” Vela said.
Vela also said he was against removing any confederate statues in national parks.
“If we do that on park land we then remove the stories that they contain. And if those stories are further sanitized in the history text, we can — we may completely lose that narrative. We can’t,” Vela said.
 
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Well they sure aren't counting Asians as minorities, cause they've made up about 50% of the visitors to any national park I've even been to.
 

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Well they sure aren't counting Asians as minorities, cause they've made up about 50% of the visitors to any national park I've even been to.
You are spot on there. We went to Yellowstone a couple of years back and there were buses upon buses of Asian tourists.
 

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Its breitbart. Consider the source.
They have been more accurate the past four years than most of the sources you post from. But here you go even news with a terrible record in the age of Trump is reporting it.

https://twitter.com/ABCNewsLive/status/1278475864238428162?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1278475864238428162%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Fnews-and-politics%2Fjim-treacher%2F2020%2F07%2F02%2Fgoing-to-national-parks-is-racist-declares-abc-news-n599372
 

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Breitbart reporting on a story from ABC with quotes from the associate director of the Sierra club. I mean they only refer back to ABC about 200 times in that story.
They have been more accurate the past four years than most of the sources you post from. But here you go even news with a terrible record in the age of Trump is reporting it.

https://twitter.com/ABCNewsLive/status/1278475864238428162?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1278475864238428162%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Fnews-and-politics%2Fjim-treacher%2F2020%2F07%2F02%2Fgoing-to-national-parks-is-racist-declares-abc-news-n599372
Well it appears the story does exist. I think a lot of this has to do with income inequality and the western us being more homogeneous than other places rather than racism. The western us has the majority of national parks.
 

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Well it appears the story does exist. I think a lot of this has to do with income inequality and the western us being more homogeneous than other places rather than racism. The western us has the majority of national parks.
The Federal Government owns over 30% of the land west of the Rockies so they for sure have the most national parks. They also have very little population with the exception of Cali. Like 75% of the U.S. population is East of the Rockies. East coast beaches and parks would see far more visitors demographics dictate that.

Economics would dictate how many people from the East could afford to visit the western parks.
 
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You are spot on there. We went to Yellowstone a couple of years back and there were buses upon buses of Asian tourists.
In fairness though, I'm sure the bulk of those are from outside the US.

I do wonder why black people don't seem as interested in the outdoors as others. I guess it could just be an urban vs rural thing, but it really seems they just don't have a passion for it like other groups. On a side note, I spent a lot of time fishing in bass clubs over my life, and in all the clubs I was a part of, there was only one black guy, and he and I really enjoyed fishing together. He was from a small town in Texas though, so maybe that was it. I have seen some totally black bass clubs pop up recently though, which is pretty cool i guess. Self-segregation is an issue in all this as well, with no better example than churches. I wonder how much of this stuff would take care of itself if a lot of the segregation by choice went away.
 
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I’ve been to many National Parks in recent years. I’m surprised the % minority visitors is that high. Observationally, the vast majority of minority visitors are Asian or Hispanic. I’d gather less than 5% are Black.

Economics may contribute, but that’s hardly the root cause. I’ve been to many, many hotels/resorts/beaches over the years during normal vacation periods during the year - Vegas, LA, SF, NYC, Boston, Dallas, Phoenix, etc., etc. I guarantee, the black families represented at the various hotels and vacation locations therein was at least in proportion to the general population. Visiting the National Parks is no more expensive.

On the other hand, living in the mountains, the number of Black visitors here is nowhere near the population average.

Conclusion, certain outdoor activities and the experience offered by the National Parks just isn’t attractive to their culture.


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Its breitbart. Consider the source.
So ABC is cited multiple times in the story and has a similar story on their website and your response is “Its Breitbart. Consider the source.” WTH?

I thought the story might have been from The Onion, but your response is more from The Onion.
 

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So ABC is cited multiple times in the story and has a similar story on their website and your response is “Its Breitbart. Consider the source.” WTH?

I thought the story might have been from The Onion, but your response is more from The Onion.
He's the kind of guy you can show the official documents to and he will tell you it's conspiracy. True story he's done it before.
 

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You are spot on there. We went to Yellowstone a couple of years back and there were buses upon buses of Asian tourists.
In fairness though, I'm sure the bulk of those are from outside the US.

I do wonder why black people don't seem as interested in the outdoors as others. I guess it could just be an urban vs rural thing, but it really seems they just don't have a passion for it like other groups. On a side note, I spent a lot of time fishing in bass clubs over my life, and in all the clubs I was a part of, there was only one black guy, and he and I really enjoyed fishing together. He was from a small town in Texas though, so maybe that was it. I have seen some totally black bass clubs pop up recently though, which is pretty cool i guess. Self-segregation is an issue in all this as well, with no better example than churches. I wonder how much of this stuff would take care of itself if a lot of the segregation by choice went away.
This man understands that self segregation problem.

https://youtu.be/4zBiXNFycyk


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