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“Your children's children will live under communism, You Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept communism outright; but we will keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you will finally wake up and find you already have Communism. We will not have to fight you; We will so weaken your economy, until you will fall like overripe fruit into our hands." "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

- Nikita Khrushchev from his infamous speech to the UN September 29, 1959.



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Just wanna congratulate you for posting the most absurdly ridiculous and laughable thread in Orangepower's entire history. However, I surmise you intend this thread as sarcasm. If that's not the case, please provide modern-day examples that's not obvious propaganda, like the above quote certainly is, instead of a quote a person said 6 decades ago.
 
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Just wanna congratulate you for posting the most absurdly ridiculous and laughable thread in Orangepower's entire history. However, I surmise you intend this thread as sarcasm. If that's not the case, please provide modern-day examples that's not obvious propaganda, like the above quote certainly is, instead of a quote a person said 6 decades ago.
It’s likely those weren’t his exact words, but his combined sentiments from several speeches and interviews. But the point remains. Did you not watch the Dem debates and the liberal policies spewed by every single candidate? If that ain’t heavy doses of socialism, then let’s just all pack up and go watch pigs fly.


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We started down this road to big government authoritarianism way back when Khrushchev was still just an eager young protege of Stalin....some may argue even earlier than that.
 

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Useful Idiot said:
Just wanna congratulate you for posting the most absurdly ridiculous and laughable thread in Orangepower's entire history. However, I surmise you intend this thread as sarcasm. If that's not the case, please provide modern-day examples that's not obvious propaganda, like the above quote certainly is, instead of a quote a person said 6 decades ago.
Fixed the username.
 
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All things move in cycles. I would say that we're early in the dependence stage. The far left is trying to push us further & further into this stage every day. They champion free everything: college education, healthcare, housing, guaranteed jobs, universal basic income, etc. All they're really doing is attempting to make the masses dependent on someone else's money. I'm not sure that we'll end up with a full-blown communist society, but it won't end well.

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And your explanation for the following (the vast majority implemented after 1960) is what? Economic stimulus?

Family Planning
Consolidated Health Centers
Transitional Cash and Medical Services for Refugees
State Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP)
Voluntary Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit — Low Income Subsidy
Medicaid
Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program
Breast/Cervical Cancer Early Detection
Maternal and Child Health Block Grant
Indian Health Service
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)
Supplemental Security Income (SSI)
Additional Child Tax Credit
Earned Income Tax Credit (refundable component)
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)
School Breakfast Program (free/reduced price components)
National School Lunch Program (free/reduced price components)
Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC)
Early Reading First
Rural Education Achievement Program
Mathematics and Science Partnerships
Improving Teacher Quality State Grants
Academic Competitiveness and Smart Grant Program
Single-Family Rural Housing Loans
Rural Rental Assistance Program
Water and Waste Disposal for Rural Communities
Public Works and Economic Development
Supportive Housing for the Elderly
Supportive Housing for Persons with Disabilities
Section 8 Project-Based Rental Assistance
Community Development Block Grants
Homeless Assistance Grants
Home Investment Partnerships Program (HOME)
Housing Opportunities for Persons with AIDS (HOPWA)
Public Housing
Indian Housing Block Grants
Section 8 Housing Choice Vouchers
Neighborhood Stabilization Program
Weatherization Assistance Program
Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP)
Food Program Nutrition Assistance for Puerto Rico
The Emergency Food Assistance Program (TEFAP)
Nutrition Program for the Elderly
Indian Education
Adult Basic Education Grants to States
Federal Supplemental Educational Opportunity Grant
Education for the Disadvantaged
Grants to Local Educational Agencies (Title I-A)
Title I Migrant Education Program
Higher Education — Institutional Aid and Developing Institutions
Federal Work-Study
Federal TRIO Programs
Federal Pell Grants
Education for Homeless Children and Youth
21st Century Community Learning Centers
Gaining Early Awareness and Readiness for Undergraduate Programs (GEAR-UP)
Child Support Enforcement
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) (social services)
Community Services Block Grant
Child Care and Development Fund
Head Start HHS
Developmental Disabilities Support and Advocacy Grants
Foster Care
Adoption Assistance
Social Services Block Grant
Chafee Foster Care Independence Program
Emergency Food and Shelter Program
Legal Services Corporation
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) (employment and training component)
Senior Community Service Employment Program
Workforce Investment Act (WIA) Adult Activities
Social Services and Targeted Assistance for Refugees
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) (employment and training)
Foster Grandparents
Job Corps
Grants to States for Low-Income Housing in Lieu of Low-Income Housing Credit Allocations
Tax Credit Assistance Program
Older Americans Act Grants for Supportive Services and Senior Centers
Older Americans Act Family Caregiver Program
Indian Human Services

And currently proposed by various Dem candidates:

Expanded welfare
Expanded food stamps
Free housing for certain citizens
Free housing for illegals
Free college education to citizens
Free college to illegals
Free healthcare to citizens
Free healthcare to illegals
Extinguish all college debt
Slave reparations
LGBTQ reparations
Mandatory conversion to green energy
Elimination of fossil fuels
State run/owned energy companies
Modification to 2nd amendment.
Open borders
Immediate citizenship for all illegals

But we’re not moving toward socialism, are we?







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If you extend this chart to present day it jumps to 47%. There's no way anyone can argue the fact that our overall population isn't becoming more & more dependent on the government & redistribution of wealth.

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As long as conservatives act totally clueless about what society must do about the too many people who feel like they were born with the world owing them a living from cradle to grave, the march toward more and more socialism will continue.
 

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I don't think the OP is totally off base. The Universities are cranking out little socialists each year. I don't think we go all out communist, but we are clearly sliding to a Western European style socialism.

I don't know how that fits because we love our stuff. The average house in the US is almost twice the size of the average house in France and we own almost double the number of vehicles per capita. The funding to our military allows many of our allies to underfund theirs. We are building a debt that doesn't allow for this path to more entitlements.

I'm not a doomsdayer but something's got to give. You can't fit the US materialism and debt, with the European love of entitlements and government regulation, and make it work.
 

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As long as conservatives act totally clueless about what society must do about the too many people who feel like they were born with the world owing them a living from cradle to grave, the march toward more and more socialism will continue.
You love to rail against conservatives, but it's the lefties so eager to embrace entitlements and government interference that is leading towards authoritarianism.
 

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If you extend this chart to present day it jumps to 47%. There's no way anyone can argue the fact that our overall population isn't becoming more & more dependent on the government & redistribution of wealth.

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Wouldn't the other way to look at that be if the policies of the government and corporations did not favor the concentration of wealth at the top then the others would not be forced to be dependent on the goverment?

I'm just guessing that most people would be quick to give up their government assistance and small tax rates for the massive raise they would have gotten had their income increased at a 226% rate instead of 47% over decades..
 
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If the parents of the millenials would cut them off and let the precious little babies face their consequences this crap would end. The orange slices and juice boxes after the soccer games with participation trophies are killing us.
 
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Wouldn't the other way to look at that be if the policies of the government and corporations did not favor the concentration of wealth at the top then the others would not be forced to be dependent on the goverment?

I'm just guessing that most people would be quick to give up their government assistance and small tax rates for the massive raise they would have gotten had their income increased at a 226% rate instead of 47% over decades..
Those are great income gains for all levels. If your income is increasing and you live with much better convenience than 30 years ago, why wouldn’t complain that even though I live better ... I just don’t live as well as someone else?
Same thing that drive Sanders supports ....Envy.
 

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Those are great income gains for all levels. If your income is increasing and you live with much better convenience than 30 years ago, why wouldn’t complain that even though I live better ... I just don’t live as well as someone else?
Same thing that drive Sanders supports ....Envy.
And, the post I responded to was envying people not having to pay income tax because they are too poor. Whining and complaining about what they get when the data shows they are getting less. Those of us who are wealthy have seen our incomes increase at a faster rate and have seen our tax rates drop. Life isn't just good, it is great (sorry we are stealing your money to fund this, kids). Yet, all of these posts whining about taxes and "redistribution" when we have been doing the best. But, hey, let that slide, those that are living far better should also get to complain about their situation without being scolded, right?
 
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If you extend this chart to present day it jumps to 47%. There's no way anyone can argue the fact that our overall population isn't becoming more & more dependent on the government & redistribution of wealth.

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Wouldn't the other way to look at that be if the policies of the government and corporations did not favor the concentration of wealth at the top then the others would not be forced to be dependent on the goverment?

I'm just guessing that most people would be quick to give up their government assistance and small tax rates for the massive raise they would have gotten had their income increased at a 226% rate instead of 47% over decades..
The government and corporations do not favor an accumulation of wealth at the top. Name me one policy that grants the top earners a right or privilege or extra benefit not granted the citizens on the lower and lowest end the scale.

A society based on capitalism rewards those that are willing and able to take advantage of the opportunities provided. Society determines the winners (ie what is valuable to society, and to what extent, and therefore who is valuable). Individuals (with a small % of exceptions) decide (through life decisions) themselves if they are to land or remain as an occupant on the lowest end of the scale.


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Those are great income gains for all levels. If your income is increasing and you live with much better convenience than 30 years ago, why wouldn’t complain that even though I live better ... I just don’t live as well as someone else?
Same thing that drive Sanders supports ....Envy.
And, the post I responded to was envying people not having to pay income tax because they are too poor. Whining and complaining about what they get when the data shows they are getting less. Those of us who are wealthy have seen our incomes increase at a faster rate and have seen our tax rates drop. Life isn't just good, it is great (sorry we are stealing your money to fund this, kids). Yet, all of these posts whining about taxes and "redistribution" when we have been doing the best. But, hey, let that slide, those that are living far better should also get to complain about their situation without being scolded, right?
Dude, you act like nobody earns their spot on the wealth scale. Instead you seem to think it’s assigned by some entity.

Weird.


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