And you thought it was Trump.....

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Deere Poke

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Division was here long before Trump. Trump actually reduced the influence of government on the people while the current administration is increasing the influence of the government on the people.

We were a lot better off under Trump, with all of his faults, than we are under this wreck we have now!
Other people with differing opinions felt just the opposite. Can't see the forest for the trees. Like I said I've spent a year thinking about things and trying to look at them from a different perspective. When you finally see it they are all the same.
 

Deere Poke

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It isn't the policies of the right that's turning career criminals loose on the streets.

Division and intimidation starts at home. Do you feel safer today walking any street in the US than you did 10, 20, 50 years ago?
Here is the violent crime rate from 1990 to 2019 29 years. Looks a lot more dangerous to be walking the streets 30 years ago. If you can find charts that go back further it's even higher. Of course they didn't have a 24 hour propoganda machine telling you how terrible the world was back in the day.
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Cimarron

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Here is the violent crime rate from 1990 to 2019 29 years. Looks a lot more dangerous to be walking the streets 30 years ago. If you can find charts that go back further it's even higher. Of course they didn't have a 24 hour propoganda machine telling you how terrible the world was back in the day.
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That's the murder/homicide rate.
 

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Let's not forget it's the Democrats not the Republican's who want to pack the supreme court to push a political agenda.
 

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Lol, classic. Presented with proof that things have gotten better and it's...

I've seen those numbers before, which is why I knew what they were. But the question is do you feel safer and too that question the survey's I've seen the majority of people say no. That might be for several reasons, and I'm sure there are.
 

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Can someone tell me, other than US Democrats, who doesn't want a secure border?