Athlon: Are Mike Gundy's Cowboys true contenders for the College Football Playoff?

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I would like to reiterate that I actually think we will win the conference championship game this year.. My point, based on experience, is that we won't get in if we don't win the conference.

We have to win the conference this year to make the playoff. I think that's a very logical premise.
 
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I would like to reiterate that I actually think we will win the conference championship game this year.. My point, based on experience, is that we won't get in if we don't win the conference.

We have to win the conference this year to make the playoff. I think that's a very logical premise.
Guy, you're talking about having experience with an event that HASN'T EVER EVEN TAKEN PLACE.

You can't keep comparing it to other football experiences and calling them the same because they simply are not.
 

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Certainly it's obviously conjecture...and I hope you are correct...but experience tells me that likely we would get bumped for a 2 loss PAC champ USC...not a Washington...A 2 loss Big 10 champ Ohio State...maybe not a Michigan State...a 2 loss ACC champ Florida State...An OU or a Texas with 2 losses if either was to beat us in the Championship game...Just is what it is when you lose the last game of the year and don't win your conference...I'm saying we can't get in with a loss in our conference championship game being that it's the Big 12 and the national media thinks we are the 4th or 5th best conference at best...if that loss was to occur in our title game...time will tell and I hope we win them all (especially that last one) and don't have to even worry.

Btw, it's way to early to discuss this stuff...Beat Tulsa!!
You are correct, if we don't win the CCG our odds of getting in are pretty close to zilch...... Not gonna happen unless there are some other upsets in conference championship games.

You've got either Clemson or Florida State out there likely taking up a spot.

Then you have the PAC, BIG 10, SEC champions taking the other spot.

A two loss PAC, Big 10, SEC champion bumps a 1 loss OSU that losses it's conference championship game. Outside of some odd circumstance.

There is some history here. A two loss LSU (two losses to un-ranked teams by the way) bumped a 1 loss Kansas team that failed to win it's conference championship game (they didn't play in it).

If OSU losses the conference championship game all bets are off.
 

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You are correct, if we don't win the CCG our odds of getting in are pretty close to zilch...... Not gonna happen unless there are some other upsets in conference championship games.

You've got either Clemson or Florida State out there likely taking up a spot.

Then you have the PAC, BIG 10, SEC champions taking the other spot.

A two loss PAC, Big 10, SEC champion bumps a 1 loss OSU that losses it's conference championship game. Outside of some odd circumstance.

There is some history here. A two loss LSU (two losses to un-ranked teams by the way) bumped a 1 loss Kansas team that failed to win it's conference championship game (they didn't play in it).

If OSU losses the conference championship game all bets are off.
Loses, not losses.
 

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You are correct, if we don't win the CCG our odds of getting in are pretty close to zilch...... Not gonna happen unless there are some other upsets in conference championship games.

You've got either Clemson or Florida State out there likely taking up a spot.

Then you have the PAC, BIG 10, SEC champions taking the other spot.

A two loss PAC, Big 10, SEC champion bumps a 1 loss OSU that losses it's conference championship game. Outside of some odd circumstance.

There is some history here. A two loss LSU (two losses to un-ranked teams by the way) bumped a 1 loss Kansas team that failed to win it's conference championship game (they didn't play in it).

If OSU losses the conference championship game all bets are off.
True...but sad...
 
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I'd take 1-1 against uo right now and not even blink, provided the one victory is in the championship game and not the regular season. Just can't see two wins vs. uo which would equal Gundy's career total against them.
 

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I'd take 1-1 against uo right now and not even blink, provided the one victory is in the championship game and not the regular season. Just can't see two wins vs. uo which would equal Gundy's career total against them.
Ehh, he's playing a first time college football head coach who is 4 years removed from his 20's. When Bob Stoops took over at OU, Lincoln Riley was probably a Freshman in high school. He has no idea what he's doing yet.
 
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Ehh, he's playing a first time college football head coach who is 4 years removed from his 20's. When Bob Stoops took over at OU, Lincoln Riley was probably a Freshman in high school. He has no idea what he's doing yet.
Until Gundy proves to us that he can beat that crimson logo on the helmet at least a third of the time, I don't feel comfortable predicting bedlam victories, I don't care if Snellenberger is their HC.
 

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Ehh, he's playing a first time college football head coach who is 4 years removed from his 20's. When Bob Stoops took over at OU, Lincoln Riley was probably a Freshman in high school. He has no idea what he's doing yet.
Plus ou's QB doesn't have "get away from the cops speed."

I don't even assume they get to the Championship game with a 1st year head coach...that would be remarkable considering all the skill positions they lost and in a young coaches first year.
 

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Until Gundy proves to us that he can beat that crimson logo on the helmet at least a third of the time, I don't feel comfortable predicting bedlam victories, I don't care if Snellenberger is their HC.
Coach Bro 2.0 hasn't proven he can win a college football game by that logic.


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Maybe because we always play like crap in Morgantown


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I think that had to do with a terrible offensive line in 2013 & 2015 more than some notion that our guys suddenly lose mojo upon entering that specific city.
 

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You are correct, if we don't win the CCG our odds of getting in are pretty close to zilch...... Not gonna happen unless there are some other upsets in conference championship games.

You've got either Clemson or Florida State out there likely taking up a spot.

Then you have the PAC, BIG 10, SEC champions taking the other spot.

A two loss PAC, Big 10, SEC champion bumps a 1 loss OSU that losses it's conference championship game. Outside of some odd circumstance.

There is some history here. A two loss LSU (two losses to un-ranked teams by the way) bumped a 1 loss Kansas team that failed to win it's conference championship game (they didn't play in it).

If OSU losses the conference championship game all bets are off.
*loses

Once I'd chalk up to a typo, but two times LOSING!:thumbdown:
 

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Ehh, he's playing a first time college football head coach who is 4 years removed from his 20's. When Bob Stoops took over at OU, Lincoln Riley was probably a Freshman in high school. He has no idea what he's doing yet.
I think if anything we can agree that castiglione and boren are pretty good at what they do, with a long history of smart hires, and they hired him without interviewing anyone else. Yes he is young but remember he's been coaching already for 15 years. With 10 years as a full time position coach or higher, 7 as OC. Gundy was hired after 14 years a position coach or higher, 4 years as OC. So Riley has had less overall experience but more experience running offense than gundy did before becoming a hc. And most importantly, players, recruits, fans and boosters love him. I think to say he has no idea what he's doing is hyperbole.
 

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I think if anything we can agree that castiglione and boren are pretty good at what they do, with a long history of smart hires, and they hired him without interviewing anyone else. Yes he is young but remember he's been coaching already for 15 years. With 10 years as a full time position coach or higher, 7 as OC. Gundy was hired after 14 years a position coach or higher, 4 years as OC. So Riley has had less overall experience but more experience running offense than gundy did before becoming a hc. And most importantly, players, recruits, fans and boosters love him. I think to say he has no idea what he's doing is hyperbole.
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