Bill Haisten's tweets re: QB race

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Celldweller7

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A very specific place
I remember Johnny Deaton but who was the other "highly-regarded" QB recruit? At that Johnny Deaton was a 3 star and an over rated one in my opinion. Not sure how highly regarded that is.
Deaton and Sorenson, with Nate Sorenson being a complete evaluation miss (not a bash, every coaching staff in America does it and so do the pros), he couldn't play QB at any D1 school. Left football entirely and is a walk-on for the A&M baseball team now.

Deaton could throw but he wasn't Big 12 caliber, at least not for this decade of the Big 12. I think he could've made it at smaller D1 universities (MAC, WAC, Sun Belt) but decided to go close to home & play immediately.
 

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You would think he would be but I think Gundy pretty much left it open ended, like he won't. Kind of like the same situation when we knew Bobby Reid was going to take over for Donovan. A couple years ago when Weeden played half a game against Colorado, heading into the spring Gundy flat out announced that Weeden would head into Spring Practice as our starting QB. It's what caused Cate to leave. It was a good example of knowing when he has his mind set on who will be the starter. He hasn't said those things about Chelf. Which tells me that Chelf more than likely won't be the starter. Gundy has Chelf sitting in the same chair as Donovan Woods going into spring and not Weeden. And if that is how it is, Chelf just won't be good enough to hold Walsh off, cause Walsh is real deal. I just think some of you all haven't seen him in so long that you forget. You all will see in the spring though. Thats for sure.
With the exception of saying that Walsh is a good QB, I think you're WAY off on your conclusions. Especially the conclusion that Chelf won't be the starter based on a few comments by Gundy. You're assuming WAY too much there. And I think your comparison to the Weeden situation doesn't hold much water either. Going into the 2010 season Chelf was a redshirt freshman, Cate had played horrible versus Colorado and Weeden had played great and was a redshirt Junior. Of course he would be named the starter going into the spring workouts. Just because Chelf hasn't been named that guy now, going into a very different situations, does not mean anything.
 
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With the exception of saying that Walsh is a good QB, I think you're WAY off on your conclusions. Especially the conclusion that Chelf won't be the starter based on a few comments by Gundy. You're assuming WAY too much there. And I think your comparison to the Weeden situation doesn't hold much water either. Going into the 2010 season Chelf was a redshirt freshman, Cate had played horrible versus Colorado and Weeden had played great and was a redshirt Junior. Of course he would be named the starter going into the spring workouts. Just because Chelf hasn't been named that guy now, going into a very different situations, does not mean anything.
Thats no different than Walsh being a redshirt freshmen going in this Spring competing against a Junior in Chelf. Only difference is that Gundy named Weeden the #1 guy. He hasn't done that for Chelf. There is your clue right there.If Gundy hasn't named you starter and you have had a few games to get in and it still isn't enough, then it tells me you more than likely won't be the guy. I'm not Gundy so I could be totally off. But I bet I'm not.
 

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In all honesty guys I lost all faith in Chelf being the starting QB at OSU the moment I saw him riding a scooter to the stadium.
The vehicle of choice for UM heisman winners. Also dangerous.

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Thats no different than Walsh being a redshirt freshmen going in this Spring competing against a Junior in Chelf. Only difference is that Gundy named Weeden the #1 guy. He hasn't done that for Chelf. There is your clue right there.If Gundy hasn't named you starter and you have had a few games to get in and it still isn't enough, then it tells me you more than likely won't be the guy. I'm not Gundy so I could be totally off. But I bet I'm not.
Again you're assuming way to much off very little information. Actually, NO information. You're assuming to much off a cookie cutter coaches quote. I'd say it is WAY more likely that Gundy just doesn't want to risk giving any sort of a sense of entitlement to any one QB. Or any player on the team for that matter.

And again, there is a BIG difference in those situations. Weeden had significant game experience in a high pressure situation in the CU game. Chelf, while he as good game time experience, only has it in mop up time. That right there is enough to justify not naming Chelf the starter right away. You are assuming WAY too much about who will or will not be the starter based on Gundy's statements.
 
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Again you're assuming way to much off very little information. Actually, NO information. You're assuming to much off a cookie cutter coaches quote. I'd say it is WAY more likely that Gundy just doesn't want to risk giving any sort of a sense of entitlement to any one QB. Or any player on the team for that matter.

And again, there is a BIG difference in those situations. Weeden had significant game experience in a high pressure situation in the CU game. Chelf, while he as good game time experience, only has it in mop up time. That right there is enough to justify not naming Chelf the starter right away. You are assuming WAY too much about who will or will not be the starter based on Gundy's statements.
Well. I'm not basing it on his quote alone. I basing it on his previous history as to what he has done and said before in the same situation. On top of that Walsh is just a better QB. Period. All I can tell you now is to just wait and see in the spring and we won't even be having this discussion anymore.
 

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Well. I'm not basing it on his quote alone. I basing it on his previous history as to what he has done and said before in the same situation. On top of that Walsh is just a better QB. Period. All I can tell you now is to just wait and see in the spring and we won't even be having this discussion anymore.
No. You don't know that. That may very well turn out to be the case but you don't have enough to make that statement and it be anything more than you blowing smoke. The only facts that you are speaking is that we'll find out in the spring.
 
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Would you guys say J.W. and Chelf are better passers than Zac?
I would say about the same. When Chelf first got here his arm was awful and I thought he would never play here. But over the years he has worked on his mechanics and he gets better spin on it. Walsh came in already on Robinson's level throwing wise.
 
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No. You don't know that. That may very well turn out to be the case but you don't have enough to make that statement and it be anything more than you blowing smoke. The only facts that you are speaking is that we'll find out in the spring.
Well when you see them in person its pretty easy to make your own judgement with that.
 
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