I don't need a public apology at all. I suppose I misunderstood what you were saying. But I would like to believe that Doug, whose done nothing but support OSU - even after being passed over for the job - wouldn't trash OSU. But I certainly could be wrong in that. Whatever the case, I don't envy Holder's position right now. Hard to see how the end of the Sutton era, the Ford situation, and this Underwood deal aren't going to do anything but make it hard to hire a solid coach. And "Amen" to your last couple sentences.