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Bring Doug Home

Discussion in 'OSU Sports Forum' started by CrazyPoke#1, Mar 18, 2017.

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Should we hire Doug Gottlieb to be the next head coach of the Oklahoma State MBB program?

Poll closed Mar 24, 2017.
  1. Yes - bring Doug home!

    204 vote(s)
    65.6%
  2. No - he doesn't have the necessary experience

    107 vote(s)
    34.4%
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  1. Birry

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    The only stipulation should be performance. Pay him $500k for one year and go from there. Our AD shouldn't be providing stipulations at this point. He's shown a total lack of judgment in this arena so far.
     
  2. CowboyOrangeFan

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    Every time I see this title I feel like Doug is missing after some stealth CIA-backed trip to the Middle East somewhere. Makes me feel like I need to buy a yellow ribbon.
     
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  3. bbriscoe

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    But we don't need a $500k coach. Illinois just paid us a $3M buyout, so lets use the money we have, and the increased ticket sales, and go get the best coach out there who can win now.
     
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  4. Birry

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    We had a good coach for that money and wouldn't pay him. What makes you think we'll turn around and pony up for someone else?
     
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  5. poknround

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    Agree with this 200% and then some. Bring him in and give him 2-3 seasons to see if he can get it done. I believe that he can.
     
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  6. PairofCowboys

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    There's nothing that brings stability like a coach with a one year contract. Maybe we can become the San Francisco 49ers of college basketball and change coaches annually.
     
  7. PairofCowboys

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    You need to give a new coach a minimum of three years if you hope to give your program any stability.
     
  8. Birry

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    So you agree that Holder screwed up Underwood's contract?
     
  9. PairofCowboys

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    No.

    I don't think that we'd be doing ourselves any service by signing the next coach to a one year contract.

    You can't control whether your coach decides to rabbit after a year. You can control when you're forced to negotiate. A one year contract forces that issue.
     
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  10. Birry

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    Didn't we sign Underwood to a one year contract last year?
     
  11. PairofCowboys

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    No. Are you completely daft? Illinois had to pay us $3M because Underwood broke his contract.
     
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    Good to know. But the contract didn't really mean much, because he left anyway. A good coach is worth a certain amount, and it appears we aren't willing to pay that.
     
  14. PairofCowboys

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    We weren't willing to pay him that amount because we didn't believe that he was worth it. I don't disagree with Holder in this instance. That 0-6 start in the Big 12 was pathetic. The season ended with a string of losses where we played very poor defense and failed to make any real adjustments when teams exploited us.

    I'm fine with Holder making that determination based on what I saw of Underwood.
     
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    Puhlease. Some of our fans can't be honest. It's impossible to play defense with Phil Forte out there. He has no foot speed or size. its' fine if he played point guard but he's too slow for that too. Love the kid, great Cowboy but let's be honest.
     
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    Fair enough. All of this really comes down to how each of us perceive Underwood as a coach (and unavoidably, how that perception is related to Ford) and how you perceive OSU as a program. Personally, I thought Underwood was worth paying for, and I think our job isn't the type that can lure the top, proven, available coaches.

    A lot of people disagree. The disagreement usually stems from people who believe OSU is a top program nationally, and that we can pull in the best available coaches. Naturally, those same people (having a superior view of OSU) will instantly turn on anyone who leaves, saying things like, "We didn't want them anyway." Funny how those same people were singing their praises until they leave, then we didn't want them.
     
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    I'm on board with Doug. The way I see it, we'll get him in here for cheap, fans will turn out to see how he does as a coach. Financially speaking, which is how we lost BU, it makes since. Give Doug a couple years to prove himself as a coach; at the very least, there's high probability he will increase the program's bottom line (ticket sales up, costs down) and we can then use the money saved to go after a big time coach when/if Doug turns into a flop.
     
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    Way to be positive. Dude take a Xanax. How about Doug might turn out to be one of the best coaches in the country. Why think negatively.
     
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  20. PairofCowboys

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    Perhaps I am the only one on OP who feels this way, but I feel like I'm taking crazy pills whenever you reply to one of my posts.

    To be clear, I was talking about former coach Brad Underwood and his inability to make adjustments on defense when an opponent is exploiting our weaknesses.

    Unbeknownst to me, I may have been talking about Phil Forte's defense in a different dimension, but I don't believe that to be the case.
     
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