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It's like you are going for every single logical fallacy in a day. This one is "shifting the burden of proof." To put it simply, it is your job to prove your own assertions. Even more importantly, it is his job to prove them. It is not my job to disprove your claims.
I can back up my claims of grants and research. There are a few people here who know me in real life and have read my publications. But if YOU don't believe me IDGAF.
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I can back up my claims of grants and research. There are a few people here who know me in real life and have read my publications. But if YOU don't believe me IDGAF.
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He has several where he goes through the data from studies and gives his take. I don’t watch them every week. Interesting guy. Confirmation bias on my part? Maybe, but there’s a lot of that going around. Right or wrong I admire the guy for putting himself out there and standing the reputation risk if he’s wrong or lying about his results.
The two you posted from the NEJOM. And I don’t have concern, I’m just looking for someone in the medical field to educate me on the data, and what is considered typical and what might be considered abbreviated for expediency. So, for example, when you see that population (i.e. 2,000-3,000) does it cause you any pause because maybe it’s a little (or a lot) smaller than what you expected to see? Or does it pretty much align with your expectations?
I just started one of his videos and he was saying in the first minute or two that masking does not work. He doesn't do emergency medicine. I GUARANTEE that if he followed me in the rooms where I go there is not a chance in hell he would be in there without a mask. Yes, masking is overdone. Yes, it is probably pointless to be wearing a mask walking around Hefner lake. But, his comment that "the studies" have shown that masks are completely ineffective is simply a lie to make the crowd like him. These are ads. Pure and simple.
There isn't a typical number. You can have a trial with 50,000 people but if they are looking for something that is extremely rare (such as aspirating food when you are going under anesthesia) then 50,000 might not be enough. But, if you are looking for something with a more frequent rate (in the safety study they chose 0.25%) then it should be picked up with fewer cases. Some studies looking for effect will have 50 people. Let's say you want to randomize to see if there is a difference in given fluid X or fluid Y after a gunshot to the chest, well, you aren't going to get 10,000 people with a gunshot wound to the chest.
Another example, the Ivermectin studies are as follows:
From Egypt (400 and 200 in control) the largest but RETRACTED as data was falsified
From Iran 70 given and 70 control
ICON Florida charts reviewed retrospectively 173 with Iver and 107 without. Not even a controlled study, just reviewed charts.
Spain (for prevention at disease onset) 24 patients total
There were a few more even smaller.
Other largest Ivermectin study was from Colombia 400 pts. Younger population. Randomized. No difference was found with treatment but cannot extrapolate to older population.
So, point is, if you are going to question small numbers then you really need to question the medication you had been taking. The numbers and study methods are FAR poorer than the ones I posted.
Another example, the Ivermectin studies are as follows:
From Egypt (400 and 200 in control) the largest but RETRACTED as data was falsified
From Iran 70 given and 70 control
ICON Florida charts reviewed retrospectively 173 with Iver and 107 without. Not even a controlled study, just reviewed charts.
Spain (for prevention at disease onset) 24 patients total
There were a few more even smaller.
Other largest Ivermectin study was from Colombia 400 pts. Younger population. Randomized. No difference was found with treatment but cannot extrapolate to older population.
So, point is, if you are going to question small numbers then you really need to question the medication you had been taking. The numbers and study methods are FAR poorer than the ones I posted.
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https://www.newsweek.com/fauci-said...ctive-keeping-out-virus-email-reveals-1596703
Well that settles it then. Anyone who says that masks are ineffective is definitely a quack.
Well that settles it then. Anyone who says that masks are ineffective is definitely a quack.
I know the guy. He isn't a quack. But, he is advertising and building clientele with these videos. You want to hear that stuff.
Fauci said it in Feb 2020 and since has changed his mind and restated over and over. Science isn't "read my lips, no new taxes" type stuff. As new info comes in, you SHOULD change what you say.
William's video where he claims they are useless was in Sep 2021.
Fauci said it in Feb 2020 and since has changed his mind and restated over and over. Science isn't "read my lips, no new taxes" type stuff. As new info comes in, you SHOULD change what you say.
William's video where he claims they are useless was in Sep 2021.
I had lunch with our local hospital administrator today. Rotary every Wednesday. The subject of mandates came up and he stated that under 40% of his staff is vaccinated. They had to turn down Thunder tickets for a conference they were going to because he was the only one vaccinated. Thought it was interesting.
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The problem of course is that is a selected patient population. I doubt he is flat-out lying. For example, I have treated more than 700 and have had WAY more than 5 hospitalizations and unfortunately a lot of deaths. But, my patient population is veterans and many of them are old, sometimes indigent, and of poor health. He runs a lifestyle type clinic and most of his patients have significant financial means and choose to spend their money on health. Therefore, his results even if true are not very generalizable. I work part-time at a competing clinic to his one day a week. For that population, I have had no deaths, either.
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