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RxCowboy

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How many $2T stimulus packages can we afford? How long can people feed their families with unemployment double what it was pre-COVID in some states?
31 million cases and counting in the US. If 1% of those end up with million dollar hospital bills that's $310 trillion. Makes those $2T stimulus packages look like chump change. Then there's the lost productivity from all those people lingering in a hospital for a month and then dying anyway - that alone would tank the economy worse than anything else in our history. Let's say 1% don't end up with million dollar bills, but look at smaller percentages:

0.1% = $31T
0.01% = $3.1T

If 1/100th of a percent has of the 31 M has a million dollar hospital bill then we approach $4T. By preventing the million dollar hospital bills we've paid for the 2 x $2T stimulus packages.

Brings the phrase "penny-wise and pound foolish" to mind.
 

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You mean this NPR article?



https://www.npr.org/2021/03/25/980035707/lying-through-truth-misleading-facts-fuel-vaccine-misinformation#:~:text=Among%20the%20more%20than%2085,suffering%20from%20other%20health%20conditions

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Among the more than 85 million people inthe U.S. who have now received at least one vaccination shot, less than .0018% of shot recipients have died sometime afterward.
We vaccinated the most vulnerable first. That also means that they are vulnerable to other things.
 

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31 million cases and counting in the US. If 1% of those end up with million dollar hospital bills that's $310 trillion. Makes those $2T stimulus packages look like chump change. Then there's the lost productivity from all those people lingering in a hospital for a month and then dying anyway - that alone would tank the economy worse than anything else in our history. Let's say 1% don't end up with million dollar bills, but look at smaller percentages:

0.1% = $31T
0.01% = $3.1T

If 1/100th of a percent has of the 31 M has a million dollar hospital bill then we approach $4T. By preventing the million dollar hospital bills we've paid for the 2 x $2T stimulus packages.

Brings the phrase "penny-wise and pound foolish" to mind.
I hope you didn’t study math at OSU. :facepalm:

You might want to re-do your figures (hint: change your "T" to a "B" and your calculation will be correct).

Your post reminded me when MSMBC’s Brian Williams had a similar math error on-air.
https://twitter.com/jeffmgould/status/1235844527480397826?s=21
 
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This is getting ridiculous. Specifically, what has he been wrong about?
It isn't the things he's been wrong about that bother me, it's the things he's lied about. He's admitted to misleading the public about masks and vaccination rates. I want a public health official to tell me the truth, not what they think I need to hear.
 
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You mean this NPR article?



https://www.npr.org/2021/03/25/980035707/lying-through-truth-misleading-facts-fuel-vaccine-misinformation#:~:text=Among%20the%20more%20than%2085,suffering%20from%20other%20health%20conditions

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Among the more than 85 million people in the U.S. who have now received at least one vaccination shot, less than .0018% of shot recipients have died sometime afterward.
It wasn’t an article but I think the below is what was being discussed:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...s-diagnosed-covid-3-dead-michigan/7100759002/
 

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It isn't the things he's been wrong about that bother me, it's the things he's lied about. He's admitted to misleading the public about masks and vaccination rates. I want a public health official to tell me the truth, not what they think I need to hear.
Is there a source for this? I’m tired of the lack of citation.
 
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Is there a source for this? I’m tired of the lack of citation.
Direct quote on masks:
“Very early on in the pandemic, in the very early months, before we even had many cases, there was a shortage of PPE and masks for health care providers who needed them desperately since they were putting their lives and their safety on the line every day. So the feeling was that people who were wanting to have masks in the community, namely just people out in the street, might be hoarding masks and making the shortage of masks even greater. In that context, we said that we did not recommend masks.”

Direct quote on herd immunity vaccination estimates:
"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent," Fauci said. "Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, 'I can nudge this up a bit,' so I went to 80, 85."
 

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Almost 1/3 of the general population also.

https://globalizationandhealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12992-020-00589-w

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If you read the actual study, they found significant differences between covid patients and other respiratory infections (flu, pneumonia, strep). So, it wasn't a "general population" effect because they controlled for that.

https://www.thelancet.com/action/sh...YvkKYu0QnF2yQSgOxgqc0q92JR-3hzN78KnXB9EIMAOLw

Most diagnostic categories were more common in patients who had COVID-19 than in those who had influenza (hazard ratio [HR] 1·44, 95% CI 1·40–1·47, for any diagnosis; 1·78, 1·68–1·89, for any first diagnosis) and those who had other respiratory tract infections (1·16, 1·14–1·17, for any diagnosis; 1·32, 1·27–1·36, for any first diagnosis).​