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[Football] Depth Chart

Discussion in 'OSU Sports Forum' started by HeartLike_JohnStarks, Jul 19, 2009.

  1. HeartLike_JohnStarks

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    According to Rivals ( they finally updated it) :

    http://oklahomastate.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp

    So Shane Jarka will be starting over Swanson Miller?

    Also interesting to note is that in their version we have walk ons Colton Chelf and Casey Labrue as 2nd stringers.

    I've heard good things about Labrue from spring but who the hell is Colton Chelf?
     
  2. The Poke

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  3. HeartLike_JohnStarks

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    Yea thats what I thought but more anything I'm a bit concerned if walk ons do indeed become 2nd stringers on our team.

    What about Adrian Richards? Has he just vasty underperformed so much that a walk on has beaten him to a spot? And what about Josh Cooper???

    I would be stunned if the official depth chart turns out to be anywhere similar to this.
     
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    I thought that Matt Fodge graduated :p
     
  5. HeartLike_JohnStarks

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    Wow, okay I somehow didn't catch that.

    Yeah, this depth chart needs some more updatin' :D
     
  6. Agent Orange

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    Don't ever go by Rival's depth chart especially this early in the preseason.
     
  7. jp7588

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    Looks like an exact copy of the depth chart in the official media guide released a couple weeks ago.
     
  8. CaliforniaCowboy

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    Yeah, I call BS on that being the "official" depth chart for the Sept opener.

    You know Coach Wick hasn't decided on the OLine, and Jarka didn't even practice in the spring.
     
  9. Hoopsfan

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    I don't think there are that many questions on the depth chart entering into fall camp this year. There are some position battles on the offensive line and guys fighting for snaps in the second unit, but by and large, you know what to expect barring injuries or an absolutely dominate preseason camp by a someone unexpected.

    QB: Robinson, Weeden, Cate, Chelf (redshirts)

    The early depth chart will not have a clear #2 named, but it looked like Weeden had moved past Cate into the #2 spot during the spring.

    FB: Ward, Paulsen

    The offense is going to have more fullback and h-back packages, so both of these guys are going to play this year.

    RB: Hunter, Toston, Johnson, Staley, Miller, J. Smith (redshirt), Pratt (redshirt)

    Hunter and Toston are the clear 1-2 punch at the top. At least two more guys will play regularly with one being a short yardage specialist and the other a mop up duty back that could move up if Hunter or Toston get injured. J. Smith has a shot at earning playing time (he is that good), but a redshirt seems likely at this point with Johnson and Staley looking strong in the spring.

    Expect to see several 2-back looks.

    TE: Youman, Mosely, Bassett, Horton

    Mosely is the most complete TE of the group, but Youman likely winds up the starter with Horton filling a passing situation role. Watch out for Horton being moved around to get favorable matchups like OSU did with Bowman. He is a match up nightmare.

    X-WR: Bryant, Anyiam, Richards, Harrison (redshirt)

    When spring practice began, Blackmon and Anyiam were running 1-2 at the X (Dez was out with the injury); however, Blackmon will likely get more reps sliding out to the Z where Davis and Bowling are no longer on the team. Anyiam should pick up most of the reps when Bryant is out.

    Y-WR: Conner, Anderson, T. Moore, Fooks

    Conner is the clear cut starter, but it's a bit murky after that. Anderson has great speed, but isn't really a consistent play maker. Don't be surprised to see Tracy Moore push for playing time. His size could lend itself to effective blocking and he has really sure hands that could provide an outlet for the QB in pressure situations.

    Z-WR: Blackmon, Cooper, C. Moore (redshirt)

    Justin Blackmon won this spot in the spring with his play.

    LT: Okung, Martinez, Taormina, LaBrue, Graham (redshirt)

    Big drop off after Okung, although Martinez has shown some potential.

    LG: Rush/Adcock, A. Jones, Webb (redshirt-could see time at center)

    For a long time, Rush was thought to be the clear cut starter, but expect Wickline to move guys around in the fall to get the best 5-man group on the field. It's possible that Mitchell could be penciled in at RG, leaving a huge battle for the LG spot between Rush, Franklin, Morgan, and Adcock. In fact, putting a road grater like Morgan next to Okung could pay real dividends in short yardage situations.

    OC: Lewis, Garner, Hoog

    RG: Franklin/Morgan, Taylor, Chestnut

    RT: Bond, Mitchell <could start at RG>, Davis, Bowie (redshirt)

    DE: Chinasa, Jones, Hart,

    With Bill Young in charge, I suspect there will be more shuffling of Defensive Linemen than before. Expect to see Chinasa line up on both sides depending on the situation. The same can be said of Jones. Darius Hart has looked really good in workouts, so he could definitely be a factor.

    DE: Blatnick, Price, Hudson

    This position battle could rage on through fall camp. Both Blatnick and Price are capable. Hudson is a great prospect, perhaps the most underated of the incoming class! Hopefully he can be redshirted.

    DT: Miller, Jarka, Hubbard,

    Miller and Jarka will split snaps while Hubbard may still find himself as redshrt.

    DT: Burton, Donaldson, Nicholas, A. Rogers (redshirt)

    Nicholas could play either tackle position, and his quickness will lend itself to being a situational player when more interior pass rush is needed.

    WLB: Lavine, Gent, Furr (redshirt), C. Richardson (redshirt)

    The question here is whether or not Furr and Richardson are needed for special teams.

    MLB: Lemon, Booker, Moala, Barnes (redshirt)

    SLB: Sexton, J. Thomas, Fontenot, Alexander

    SS: Johnson, Martin, W. Smith

    FS: Antoine, J. Thomas, Mitchell (redshirt)

    FCB: Cox, Gray, Lowe

    BCB: Anderson, Brown, McGee, May (redshirt)
     
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    Awesome breakdown, thanks!
     
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    The ones that caught my eye were Blatnick over Price at DE and Jarka over Miller at DT, plus the competition on the o-line. I really liked Price last year and thought he should’ve played more so I was surprised to see him drop on the depth chart although I’ve heard great things about Blatnick.

    Is it possible that the coaching staff drops certain people down or off the 2-deep in order to properly motivate them throughout the offseason? I know if I was a young talented receiver or especially a senior somewhere I’d be a little extra motivated in the weight room, etc. this summer to make sure my name was on the two deep by the time fall rolled around.
     
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    Thanks for the breakdown, I have a few questions for you:

    1.) Is Jarka really playing well enough to push for more snaps at NT, or is Swanson Miller just not the player we thought he'd be coming out of JUCO? Also, I take it from your mention of Hubbard possibly redshirting that his conditioning this summer still hasn't gotten him where he needs to be?

    2.) If Mitchell ends up moving to guard, does that mean that none of our current guards have seized the job, or will it just mean that Wickline is getting our best talent on the field? I like having Mitchell in our back pocket to relieve Bond/Okung.

    3.) Which of the incoming freshman do you think has the best chance to see significant playing time ala Victor Johnson/Markelle Martin last season? It seems there's plenty of playing time at CB up for grabs if Lowe wants it, and Paulsen at FB should play a lot. Other than those guys, I don't really see any true frosh cracking the 2-deep this year.
     
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    1. First off, nothing is set in stone this early in the season. Jarka and Miller will be fighting for the starting job all throughout the preseason up to September 5th. Hubbard still has a lot of work to do in the weight room.

    2. Wickline will ALWAYS put the 5 best lineman out on the field. If you're in the top 5, he's going to find a spot for you. Like I said above, nothing is set in stone, especially with Wickline.

    3. Lowe has the best chance to come in at corner, and play immediately. Paulsen will see plenty of action at fullback. He came in looking great. He has a personal trainer, and is constantly working harder and harder each day to get stronger and improve. To be honest, if we have to have Freshman coming in and getting significant playing time on defense or offense I don't think were where we need to be. It's a GREAT sign that those two players are the only ones who may see playing time this year.
     
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    When do practices start? Until we start getting some practice reports it's all speculation as far as NEW starters.
     
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    The idea of Mitchell at guard is intriguing. All I've heard is good things since he got here and I'd hate for his time to be basically a complete waste backing up a couple studs at tackle. I know it requires a different skill set and a little more mobility (pulling) but it'd be nice to finally utilize him.

    Lowe at corner is interesting to think about too. I've been a little worried about opposite Perrish, but it's nice to know that there will at least be a little competition there which is sure to bring out the best. What about Markelle Martin? Why the switch to safety? He didn't look too bad last year at corner.
     
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    He's too aggressive, and he looks a lot better at Safety.
     
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    Is it a foregone conclusion that Lowe is going to play corner? It makes sense, and everyone talks about it as if it's set in stone, but I haven't heard anything official.
     
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    Lowe will definitely start out at corner.
     
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    Good. I think we're deep enough at safety as it is. Hopefully he transitions well. If the safeties play like I think they can and if Lowe can make an impact at the corner position this year then I think we could have a really solid secondary behind our proven linebackers. All we need is that D-line to get it together. I might be crazy but the more I think about this defense the better I think they could be.
     
  20. HeartLike_JohnStarks

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    Do you mean he will be A starting corner, over Terrance Andeson?
     

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