More of the idiocy that is Glenn Beck...

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Beck isn't partisan. That's why I don't think he's bad for America. I think we need more anti-big government speech in the media, but hopefully with a little less silliness, and a little more seriousness.
Well said and the more the better so long as the person spreading the crap has the willingness and ability to make it stick. I think Beck offers some pretty impressive background for what he says and his red-phone idea is smart. If anybody disagrees they can call, make an appearance on the show and bring their A game.
 
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He may not have been a party member, but he once claimed he was a communist. His political mentor Ed Robbin, who was a communist, introduced him to socialism and communism. His close friend Will Geer was a communist. Guthrie was at least a fellow traveler in thought, but not discipline. He wrote many articles in the Communist newspaper The Daily Worker. He was a troubled and restless Okie, and he was certainly a communist sympathizer.
Things were very bad in the great depression. But as for Guthrie I didn't care much for his music outside a couple of pieces, they were corny and poor musically. One could probably make a case either way as to his political ideology but the fact that the Hollywood freaks took to him like a duck to water, sure makes me think that they thought he was a commie.
 

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I would not call that an insult, but accurate criticism of a bad ruling.
Exactly. Criticizing a ruling is completely different than insulting a justice personally. If anything, Roberts was the immature one here. If he can't take that kind of thing, just do what most justices do -- don't show up.
 

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I would not call that an insult, but accurate criticism of a bad ruling.
Let's refresh everyone's memory that it was not I who used the word insult even though some may consider it an unappropriate time and place when they were sitting there and had sit there silently and could not respond.

He may like to lecture them, but they are his equal and not his law students to talk down to.

I could devise a long list of politicians who routinely make a public ass of themselves in terms of both decency and integrity. But I'll give you just one to chew on: Obama insulting a sitting supreme court justice, in his state of the union address and viewed by millions on national TV. Just wondering if that disturbed you as much as I.
 

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Let's refresh everyone's memory that it was not I who used the word insult even though some may consider it an unappropriate time and place when they were sitting there and had sit there silently and could not respond.
Sorry, that was not directed at you, but the original poster.
 

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He may like to lecture them, but they are his equal and not his law students to talk down to.
I don't see how disagreeing with their decision is talking down to them. Stevens used much sharper language in his dissent, but you could hardly say he was talking down to the majority.
 

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I don't see how disagreeing with their decision is talking down to them. Stevens used much sharper language in his dissent, but you could hardly say he was talking down to the majority.
He wasn't just disagreeing with them. He was literally looking down on them and they had to physically look up. The President and the Supreme Court were guests of both Houses of Congress. That wasn't the place to take issue with the rule of law in my mind. If he had been standing before them in their Court, he would have been standing in contempt of them.
 

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Thin-skinned much? The SOTU address is the President's show. If he appeared before the Court, it would be their forum.
 

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Thin-skinned much? The SOTU address is the President's show. If he appeared before the Court, it would be their forum.
So he gets main billing and that gives him authority and the right to dismiss the Supremes? BS. Does he need to have that sort of reinforcement and power play in front of both houses, the Supremes, the Joint Chiefs and the US watching audience? Is this the behavior of the C in C? Have you ever seen another President behave in this way during the State of the Union speech?
 

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Thin-skinned much? The SOTU address is the President's show. If he appeared before the Court, it would be their forum.
"He or she shall from time to time give to Congress information of the State of the Union and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he or she shall judge necessary and expedient. ”

— Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution
He is there to report on the State of the Union and outline his legislative agenda and national priorities to Congress. It was not his time to take pot shots at the job the Supreme Court is doing. If he doesn't like the law they are interpreting, then have his Congress write a better law or one more to his tastes.
 

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Quote:
"He or she shall from time to time give to Congress information of the State of the Union and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he or she shall judge necessary and expedient. ”

— Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution

I would say that telling Congress about a bad decision and the need to pass a law to stop the possibility of foreign interests from entangling themselves in US affairs would fit that very well.
 

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"He or she shall from time to time give to Congress information of the State of the Union and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he or she shall judge necessary and expedient. ”

— Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution

I would say that telling Congress about a bad decision and the need to pass a law to stop the possibility of foreign interests from entangling themselves in US affairs would fit that very well.
It was a completely partisan affair, and it was disgusting. Obama is the most "unPresidential" president in history. He is embarrassing. For being so thin, he sure is full of a lot of hot air. He likes to talk, but rarely do his actions match his words.
 

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"He or she shall from time to time give to Congress information of the State of the Union and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he or she shall judge necessary and expedient. ”

— Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution

I would say that telling Congress about a bad decision and the need to pass a law to stop the possibility of foreign interests from entangling themselves in US affairs would fit that very well.
A "bad" decision? Says who? And, there are ways to communicate your displeasure to the Supreme Court without doing it on national tv. It was a typical obama moment, looking down his nose and chastising someone who had the nuts to do something with which he disagreed. I agree with 987, he is the most un-presidential man we've had in the whitehouse that I can think of. Possibly ever.
 

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"He or she shall from time to time give to Congress information of the State of the Union and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he or she shall judge necessary and expedient. ”

— Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution

I would say that telling Congress about a bad decision and the need to pass a law to stop the possibility of foreign interests from entangling themselves in US affairs would fit that very well.
Wasn't Obama actually wrong in his statement regarding the decision of the Supreme Court?
 

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There's a reason McDonald's is the number one restaurant in the US, and it's not because they make good hamburgers.
If Fox news is McDonald's that would make MSNBC a sushi place. It stinks and I don't really believe anybody could like that crap, they just act like they like it because they think it makes them appear cosmopolitan and enlightened. Most of us know better.