Ron Paul Wins Faux News Debate....Again

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The media ignores him because he is insignificant. That probably isn't fair, but when you are only pulling 2-3% in the polls (real polls, not online polls), no one is going to pay attention to you.
Now that I think about it, there is more evidence of support for Ron Paul that is much more obvious. I don't know if you watched the debate, but if you did, you would've had a pretty hard time blocking out all the support that was there in the crowd for Paul. Certainly more than 2-3%. Sure his constituency is a little more hyper, but I've gotta believe he's doing better than 2-3%.
 
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The media ignores him because he is insignificant. That probably isn't fair, but when you are only pulling 2-3% in the polls (real polls, not online polls), no one is going to pay attention to you.
Paul has won straw polls, and has repeatedly placed either 2nd or 3rd in pretty much every one held so far. I posted up some results a week or so ago.
 

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Paul has won straw polls, and has repeatedly placed either 2nd or 3rd in pretty much every one held so far. I posted up some results a week or so ago.
Yup...neo-con media is doing all they can to squash the man. I think they are only serving to make him more popular.

When he wins your poll one night, and you go on the next morning (Fox) and discredit him (or attempt to) as a serious candiate, people are going to see through that. Sure made me go hmmmmm.
 
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Bill O'Reilly has a poll question every week and although it is by no means scientific, it is judged by him and Fox to be honest. But when someone they OBVIOUSLY don't like wins their post-debate poll, they still attempt to discredit him in the most "professional" way possible.

Its still early after the debate and I'll give fox and the rest of the news channels today a chance to be fair, but if they just talk about the big 3 95% of the time, I will be crying foul. Huckabee deserves some love too, not because I agree with him, but I thought he had a strong performance.

ps. fyi, I watch fox for my tv news about 70% of the time.
 

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I'd have to disagree with you on that. I don't see how "we broke it we buy it" ie, save face, is justification for a war. There may be other good reasons but that is a terrible excuse imo. I liked Huckabee alright though. Anything to save us from the socialist.
I don't buy the save face bunk myself. I think Huckabee is a strong advocate for the idea that Iraq represents far more then a single war in a little country. It has to do with the overall picture. It is broke, and we broke it sure. If that were all it was I would be far more likely to say get out now and be done with it.

I don't believe just coming home right now has a prayer of doing anything except give dems something to cheer about. It will leave a bloodbath far worse than anything we have seen thus far. Iran is already gearing up to put themselves right in the middle, and I am not for Paul's "leave them alone" stradegy. "Leave them alone" doesn't work.

Fox News is a lot of things, but they made a great point about Reagan and his negotiation during the Cold War. Sure, he didn't fire a shot at Soviets, but he sure as hell had a 1000 Nukes aimed in their direction when he talked to them. It sort of gave his word a bit more weight, I would say.

Cut and run would be an even bigger disaster for this country and the world. I think Paul is all cut and run, and he does not hide it. That is why he will never get my vote.
 
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I don't buy the save face bunk myself. I think Huckabee is a strong advocate for the idea that Iraq represents far more then a single war in a little country. It has to do with the overall picture. It is broke, and we broke it sure. If that were all it was I would be far more likely to say get out now and be done with it.

I don't believe just coming home right now has a prayer of doing anything except give dems something to cheer about. It will leave a bloodbath far worse than anything we have seen thus far. Iran is already gearing up to put themselves right in the middle, and I am not for Paul's "leave them alone" stradegy. "Leave them alone" doesn't work.

Fox News is a lot of things, but they made a great point about Reagan and his negotiation during the Cold War. Sure, he didn't fire a shot at Soviets, but he sure as hell had a 1000 Nukes aimed in their direction when he talked to them. It sort of gave his word a bit more weight, I would say.

Cut and run would be an even bigger disaster for this country and the world. I think Paul is all cut and run, and he does not hide it. That is why he will never get my vote.
You know Paul worked for Reagan, was one of the first men on his committee when he decided to run for Pres? And Reagan endorsed him when he ran for Pres in '88?

And how can you say it would be worse if we leave? There have been approximately anywhere from 300,000 - 400,000 deaths that we know about as a result of our invasion in Iraq. We've made that place a terrorism haven, it's 10x worse than it was before we invaded. Saddam was a sworn enemy to the Taliban. He kept them in check, out of his country. 9/11 had absolutely NO TIES to Iraq. Paul supported the initiative to find Bin Laden - how come that still hasn't happened? Americans have been completely bamboozled on this whole charade that invading Iraq was the thing to do. It is proven FACT that we were LIED to. How can you trust anyone that continues to maintain that lie?

Paul said it best as it related to his profession - when you misdiagnose a problem, you don't continue that prescription. It could make it worse and even kill you.

How can you trust any of those people that are running? They have no consistency in their voting. Ron Paul is the most consistent voter in congress. It's great to take some soundbite from Huckabee about "Honor" but what the hell does that even mean? It's honorable to perpetrate lies and have Americans continually be killed so these bastards can save face? Are you kidding me?
 

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First off, Aaron C. that is the scariest thing I've ever seen.

Secondly, it sounds like kaje hasn't been Hannitized!:D:rolleyes::x

Hannity cracks me up. Every other word is, "unbelievable!"

I work at a conservative radio station, so I have to listen to him every day.:x
 

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With 33%...

Shove that up your *** Hannity!
kaje, we know that you are very excited about your candidate, but I hope you are keeping your expectations realistic for the future.

Does he still believe the American Civil War could have been avoided? That the issue of state rights and the nagging issue of slavery could have been peacefully resolved?
 

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kaje, we know that you are very excited about your candidate, but I hope you are keeping your expectations realistic for the future.

Does he still believe the American Civil War could have been avoided? That the issue of state rights and the nagging issue of slavery could have been peacefully resolved?
I'm sure I along with all of the other Ron Paul supporters wouldn't be trying if we didn't think it was possible. You won't see me with the loser mentality until the primary results are in and Ron Paul isn't the victor.
 

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kaje, we know that you are very excited about your candidate, but I hope you are keeping your expectations realistic for the future.

Does he still believe the American Civil War could have been avoided? That the issue of state rights and the nagging issue of slavery could have been peacefully resolved?
I'm sure I along with all of the other Ron Paul supporters wouldn't be trying if we didn't think it was possible. You won't see me with the loser mentality until the primary results are in and Ron Paul isn't the victor.
You answered my thought. Are you still thinking about my question?
 

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Civil War Important to Candidate Paul

Wasn't planning on answering it because I don't have a clue. The Civil War really doesn't strike me as being an important topic for today's current events/politics.
The only reason I asked the question was because Candidate Paul had made an analogy to that war from long ago and this current one, that is neither should have ever been fought.

So you may not have thought it an important topic, but you candidate sure does. I was interested in finding more on his thoughts about how the Blue and the Gray could have settled their differences without the shedding of blood. How Lincoln missed the boat.

Your candidate, not so long ago, had very strong beliefs about this. I just wonder if he still did and where his writings on this could be found.
 

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Desert you said Paul has won straw polls.....which ones has he won that don't involve texting or the internet. If his abolish the gubment sound bite campaign miraculously escapes the primary it would get ripped to shreds when his interviews come back to haunt him.......it is mush easier to say you are for getting rid of gigantic portions of the government than it is to lay out a detailed workable plan for the solution the average voter can understand.

Paul doesn't have a chance and frankly it is a sad thing.....not that I am a fan of his per se' but that the "Ron Paul's" of the world don't have a chance in our system. He has moments of brillance sprinkled in a dish of crazy .....get rid of the IRS, INS, Homeland Secruity, Dep. of Energy, Dep. of Education etc etc while not offering a solution other than "we don't need them". If you add up all the Rep votes in the primaries from all the states Paul will have less than 5% of the vote. He and "I'm your Huckleberry" will split the fringe vote.......Romney will win the hair gel vote, and a crusty old white man will win the Rep. nom. You may not like it but it is what will happen.

Paul doesn't have answers he only identifies problems.......it makes for an entertaining interview but no one likes that guy.