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Underwood to Illinois per multiple sources

Discussion in 'OSU Sports Forum' started by teibbor, Mar 18, 2017.

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  1. Busterz

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    We "know" (as it was reported at least) Underwood was offered 2.2. If you want to call that a low ball or not thats a personal opinion. Also reportedly Underwood wanted 3M. I consider than a counter offer. Or at least they both had a starting point. What we don't know is if OSU made another offer after that or if Underwood shut it down before they got that far. We also don't know if $2.2 was Holder's best offer or if it was just a starting point or what his final number would have been. We don't know if Holder ever got a chance to call some donors and see if he could find some more money for Underwood or not. We don't know if Underwood told Holder there was a legit $3M offer out there for him. But $3M was obviously his market value.

    The fact that Underwood cut off negotiations so abruptly tells me there were probably some personal issues between the two the fans didn't know about (and maybe Holder didn't know they had a problem).
     
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  2. Cimarron

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  5. Cimarron

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    I don't know, look it up.
     
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    Average is 29 years of coaching experience.

    Mike White has the lowest at 17 years.
    John Beilein has the most at 42 years.
     
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    So what's everyone's thoughts on those salaries. I'm starting to agree more with MH that BU didn't deserve more than 2.2 after just one year where we finish 5th and go 1 and done in the tourney.
     
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  8. PairofCowboys

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    At least 8 of the 16 coaches in the Sweet 16 make less than the $3M that Underwood demanded. Underwood probably would have had more of a case if he'd taken the team to the Sweet 16 instead of going on job interviews.
     
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  9. DataAddict

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    . . . uh huh...

    I'm not getting your fixation on Holder right now. Anyone (i.e. not just Holder) with more than two brain cells to rub together would've turned down Underwood.

    I've so far only seen a few guys halfheartedly "defend" Holder . . . but that's it. Much more common are those seeing Underwood for what he actually is. And paying what Underwood was demanding would've been moronic, even more stupid than Holder's ten-year f#ck-up with Travis.
     
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  10. RutherfordFan

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    bullcrap. You don't get his fixation with Holder. Because Holder keeps screwing up. That's why. Underwood could have been given 6 years. It's total crap your argument. 6 years.
     
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  11. PairofCowboys

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    Holder didn't want to because he didn't believe that Underwood was worth it. That's not a "screw up." That is an evaluation of coaching talent and potential.
     
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    For a 9-9 conference record . . . winning a game against WVU . . . and taking six consecutive losses to adjust his defence?

    Sure, Holder could have given him 6 years @ $3+ million/yearly. It would have been stupid. But yes, he could have done that. :derp:
     
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    You mean the same guy that evaluated the coaching talent and potential of Travis Ford? Pass.
     
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    Go Pok..Illini!:pistols::facepalm:
     
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  16. PairofCowboys

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    He can get a number 1 ranking and a number 1 seed where he is right now, without having to grind through a Big 12 schedule. He has it made at Gonzaga.
     
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    LOL puhlease. Holder wanted to keep Underwood he just penny pinched and lost him cuz he's a douche. Total lack of people skills. Especially different types of personalities.
     
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  18. CowboyOrangeFan

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    Paying a guy $2.8 million that would not even put him in the top 3 of the conference doesn't come close to the disaster that was the Ford debacle.

    Underwood turns out to be a slimeball. More than a few of these guys are. Although not paying him and being in this position is worse. Which again, is nothing compared to the Ford fiasco.
     
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    I think we tried that in the past and he wasn't interested in leaving Gonzaga.
     
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    There doesn't seem to be a lot of enthusiasm like he had with the big production here.
     
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