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There has not been any discussion in anything that really matters. This just happened, it will take time for the players to react. For now, it is just talking crows, but yes I've heard OSU talked about by Brett McMurphy as the best big 12 team to the SEC.
Also, ACC has no buy out and has a Grant of Rights until 2036. That pretty much makes ACC teams worthless to improving TV money. They would have to get the conference to dissolve to avoid it and that only happens if almost all of the conference has somewhere to go. Note, I don't know what their bylaws actually say for the specific number. However, it is going to be very difficult for the ACC to get raided. Big 12 and Pac are vulnerable right now. I can't see any way 4-6 ACC teams get taken right now.
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Also, ACC has no buy out and has a Grant of Rights until 2036. That pretty much makes ACC teams worthless to improving TV money. They would have to get the conference to dissolve to avoid it and that only happens if almost all of the conference has somewhere to go. Note, I don't know what their bylaws actually say for the specific number. However, it is going to be very difficult for the ACC to get raided. Big 12 and Pac are vulnerable right now. I can't see any way 4-6 ACC teams get taken right now.
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Average football TV viewership per the remaining free agent schools:
1. Notre Dame - (3.61M)
2. Clemson - (2.67M)
3. Florida State - (2.23M)
4. Oklahoma State - (1.64M)
5. Miami - (1.503M)
6. TCU - (1.495M)
7. Stanford - (1.43M)
8. Oregon - (1.34M)
9. Washington - (1.32M)
10. West Virginia - (1.27M)
My best bet is that Notre Dame and a few more Pac 12 schools go to the B1G to get them to 20.
The ACC has a TV deal that locks their schools in until 2036. Any team that left early would have to pay a $52M exit fee and forfeit their TV rights for the next 14 years! The only way that could happen is if enough teams left to dissolve their conference.
If the SEC plans to go to 20 teams anytime soon, we may have a real shot at getting an invite. They don't care about academic prestige, and we bring TV viewers.
1. Notre Dame - (3.61M)
2. Clemson - (2.67M)
3. Florida State - (2.23M)
4. Oklahoma State - (1.64M)
5. Miami - (1.503M)
6. TCU - (1.495M)
7. Stanford - (1.43M)
8. Oregon - (1.34M)
9. Washington - (1.32M)
10. West Virginia - (1.27M)
My best bet is that Notre Dame and a few more Pac 12 schools go to the B1G to get them to 20.
The ACC has a TV deal that locks their schools in until 2036. Any team that left early would have to pay a $52M exit fee and forfeit their TV rights for the next 14 years! The only way that could happen is if enough teams left to dissolve their conference.
If the SEC plans to go to 20 teams anytime soon, we may have a real shot at getting an invite. They don't care about academic prestige, and we bring TV viewers.
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How? Big East had something like a 20 mil exit fee back in the day. That isn't the case now. It is a GRANT OF RIGHTS! I was feeling pretty hopeless until I read about it lasting until 2036. Just to be clear, this doesn't mean the exit fee is equal to their cut through 2036 as some seem to be saying (something around 400 million). it means the ACC OWNS their rights until 2036. If Clemson or FSU left for the SEC, the ACC would get all the TV money Clemson made playing in the SEC until 2036. Who would sign up for that?
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So here is my prediction Big Ten continues and takes Washington and Oregon. This is enough to scare ND into moving who only has Grant of Rights in Olympic sports. That can probably be negotiated out of. Finally, they finish off by taking someone else. Probably Cal or Stanford, but ISU and KU are a possibility too.
So now what does the SEC do? If they are locked out of taking ACC schools as I believe that means the remaining Big 12 is it. They might be better sitting pat, but taking the last profitable bits from the B1G also means less pulling money from their contract. It is the death nail in the western teams. I would say the best options are in this order.
1. Oklahoma State
2. West Virginia
3. Kansas
After that it get really muddled. Who know then. Baylor is probably the most attractive for revenue, but they have baggage. Even the SEC might want to steer away from adding more schools with religious affiliations. About the only thing I'm sure of is the KSU is likely at the bottom of the list. Also, don't rule out any of the schools the Big 12 is scheduled to add. They have real potential and huge alumni bases.
I hate to say it, but we should all be hoping that OU is working REALLY hard in our favor right now. That could mean the difference.
So now what does the SEC do? If they are locked out of taking ACC schools as I believe that means the remaining Big 12 is it. They might be better sitting pat, but taking the last profitable bits from the B1G also means less pulling money from their contract. It is the death nail in the western teams. I would say the best options are in this order.
1. Oklahoma State
2. West Virginia
3. Kansas
After that it get really muddled. Who know then. Baylor is probably the most attractive for revenue, but they have baggage. Even the SEC might want to steer away from adding more schools with religious affiliations. About the only thing I'm sure of is the KSU is likely at the bottom of the list. Also, don't rule out any of the schools the Big 12 is scheduled to add. They have real potential and huge alumni bases.
I hate to say it, but we should all be hoping that OU is working REALLY hard in our favor right now. That could mean the difference.
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The Grant of Rights contracts have never been tested in court. There is some question as to whether they would be enforceable. So far, the fear of losing that court battle has been enough to keep anyone from testing the waters. I wonder if the risk of getting left behind in this new shuffle would be enough for some ACC teams (Clemson, FSU,…) to take it to court and try to seek a much lower settlement. With that in mind, it’s not 100% that we won’t see an ACC team or two jumó on the merry-go-round.
I don’t see a way into the BiG. SEC maybe. But what would be interesting is for the networks to broker a deal for a third conference that takes the best of the rest. Lets FSU, Clemson, Miami & 1 other fold into the SEC and Oregon, Washington, Stanford & ND into BiG. Then take the best of the remainders and fold them into a 3rd 20 team conference. By networks brokering and splitting the ACC you basically dissolve it and negotiate away the media rights by paying more to get someone into the 3rd conf. The 3rd conference PAC/ACC/Big12 would be very competitive (maybe not w top of BiG or SEC) and probably worth a little less media rights money but would still be worth more than what they currently or soon will have.
Also sweeten the pot by guaranteeing cross conf rivalry games every yr like OSU vs uo (as much as I don’t want to ever play them again) so that you still get those eyeballs.
What would a 20 team PAC/ACC/Big12 3rd conf look like?
OSU/Baylor/BYU/WVU/Ks
Az/ASU/Utah/CU
NC/NCSt/Duke/Louisville/Pitt/Va/VaTech
Then pick 4 more.
Also sweeten the pot by guaranteeing cross conf rivalry games every yr like OSU vs uo (as much as I don’t want to ever play them again) so that you still get those eyeballs.
What would a 20 team PAC/ACC/Big12 3rd conf look like?
OSU/Baylor/BYU/WVU/Ks
Az/ASU/Utah/CU
NC/NCSt/Duke/Louisville/Pitt/Va/VaTech
Then pick 4 more.
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Here is the interesting point about contracts made by a state entity, they technically have to be approved by a governing board every year. Most of the votes are "automatic" but they still have to be held. Technically that 14 year grant of rights would become null if a board of regents didn't renew it annually.
Here's a fact and it's a real fact. Oklahoma State will never be a member of the SEC. It's not going to happen. Ever.
We're gonna have to face the fact that OSU will never be a member of any super conference either. It's not happening. That's reality, people. It sucks. But it is what it is. We can all dream tho, and unfortunately... Dreaming and hoping is all OSU has.
If I were you tho, I'd prepare for the inevitability of OSU being in a crap conference for the rest of time. The new Big 12 sucks so badly that it's disgusting. But we might as well pull our big boy pants up because it is what it is and it will remain that way for decades to come.
We're gonna have to face the fact that OSU will never be a member of any super conference either. It's not happening. That's reality, people. It sucks. But it is what it is. We can all dream tho, and unfortunately... Dreaming and hoping is all OSU has.
If I were you tho, I'd prepare for the inevitability of OSU being in a crap conference for the rest of time. The new Big 12 sucks so badly that it's disgusting. But we might as well pull our big boy pants up because it is what it is and it will remain that way for decades to come.
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