What are your political views?

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What are your political views?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 35 57.4%
  • Moderate

    Votes: 16 26.2%
  • Liberal

    Votes: 10 16.4%

  • Total voters
    61

Slugger926

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There is not enough choices.

Conservative with some extreme conservative areas and some extreme liberal areas depending on the issue, and moderate in other areas.
 

GodsPeace

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I am conservative.

-Small govt
-Lower taxes
-strong national defense
-pro-life

Those are my main issue and basis for decisions.

In other areas I am more moderate: Education is the basis of most of that.
 

brianwr

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I feel a lot more people are moderate than what they actually think...
And a lot of people that say they're moderate, but are entirely something else. Trying to work on the girlfriend there....she calls herself a moderate, but votes strictly Dem, and is very liberal.

Myself, one of the most conservative people I know:
-Pro fair tax
-Pro-life
-Marriage = man + woman
-Strong national defense
-Much much stronger immigration laws
-Pro guns
-Pro capital punishment
-Privatize social security
-Cut down on welfare
-Abolish affirmative action

Hey, you asked.;)
 

kenny41

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And a lot of people that say they're moderate, but are entirely something else. Trying to work on the girlfriend their...she calls herself a moderate, but votes strictly Dem, and is very liberal.

Myself, one of the most conservative people I know:
-Pro fair tax
-Pro-life
-Marriage = man + woman
-Strong national defense
-Much much stronger immigration laws
-Pro guns
-Pro capital punishment
-Privatize social security
-Cut down on welfare
-Abolish affirmative action

Hey, you asked.;)
We'll, I'm a democrat, but I'm
-Pro Gun
-Pro capital punishment
-Strong national defense
-Pro Farmer Subsidies
-Stronger immigration laws
-Pro Smaller National Government
-Pro Bigger State Government

so yes, I'm a moderate :D
 

NYC Poke

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And a lot of people that say they're moderate, but are entirely something else. Trying to work on the girlfriend there....she calls herself a moderate, but votes strictly Dem, and is very liberal.

Myself, one of the most conservative people I know:
-Pro fair tax
I don't know enough about it. From the little I do know of it, it appeals to the economist in me, but not the part of me that is concerned about social justice. I'll admit to not following this issue closely, but at first blush, it appears to me as a repackaging of tax relief for the wealthy, who arguable benefit most from our society. The goals of our current tax policy are not just efficenty, but equity. I'll defer to the commentary of the tax lawyers until I hear more on this. Right now, I just don't think it's been debated enough.
-Pro-life
I know of no one who is pro-abortion. I knew a woman who had an abortion while I was in school. She identified strongly as a conservative and did a lot of work for the Republican Party. But when it came to the choice of having the baby or being embarrassed in front of her family, church, and sorority, she chose the abortion. I suspect there are a lot of women like that tucked away among the conservative base.

I didn't feel strongly one way or the other before, but watching her grapple with this convinced me to be pro-choice. She was so scared that she would have done whatever she needed in order to fix the "situation." I'd rather women in that situation e given a safe option.

-Marriage = man + woman
Call it what you want. Same-sex couples need to be be given the same bundle of legal rights as the rest of us are. Let marriage be a religious ceremony. Let there be be some sort of civil equivalent.

I have just heard of too many heartbreaking cases where someone came out as gay, was rejected by parents, and found a long-term partner. Then came a long-term-illness where the parents, as immediate family who may or may not have even as much as talked to their offspring in the last 15 years, prohibited visits from the partner. I have heard of (and seen) instances where the long-term partner has been barred from the funeral. Artful estate planning can prevent that, but not everyone can afford artful estate planning, nor should they have to.

-Strong national defense
We all want the cool toys and we all want to be safe. There's a lot of waste there and it goes on on both sides of the aisle. Iraq is another issue that I'm sure has been duscussed ad nauseum on other threads.

-Much much stronger immigration laws
We need to somehow control immigration, but I'm not really sure what you mean by this.

-Pro guns
All constitutional rights are qualified, and I'm fine with restrictions on the "right to bear arms." If you are for an unqualified 2d Amendment, ask youself if you'd really be comfortable with Timothy McVeigh having a nuke.

-Pro capital punishment
I'm for it's measured use in the worst cases, but it tends to be overused by ambitious prosecutors. I was ambivalent about the death penalty about the death penalty before law school. Then I clerked for a firm in WV that was representing a guy who had spent 8 years in jail for a crime that subsequent DNA testing proved he could not have committed.

Turns out, the state forensic serologist was just lazy and pretty much stopped even doing the tests. The client spent 8 years in jail for a rape he didn't commit (he was anally raped 4 times while he was there, btw).

The serologist only got caught when he opened a consulting firm in Texas, where they really, really like using the death penalty. He helped send a guy to death row based on blood he supposedly tested on a knife. Later testing proved that not only that the blood on the knife didn't match the suspect, they couldn't even tell that it was human blood (they suspected it was pig blood). Furthermore, it showed no signs of having ever been tested.

The libertarians among us should recognize this as the power of the government over the individual. Eye witness testimony is highly unreliable, though convincing to juries. And there has been tons of trouble in the DNA lab in Houston. Think DMV employees, but with C-minus science students with power over your life.

-Privatize social security
Not gonna happen. Too many voters get the check. A better option politically (IMO) would be to try to reform it.

-Cut down on welfare
How? Reduce offshoring?

-Abolish affirmative action
Does that mean that Clarence Thomas gives up is seat on the Supreme Court, or is he grandfathered in?

Hey, you asked.;)
Thanks for listing the issues. Some of my replies are a little smart-alecky, but I'm happy to talk about these things in a civil manner.
 

CowboyJD

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I'm a Franklinian/Jeffersonian Consitutional libertarian. The government that governs least, governs best. The Federal government should stick to the things they are clearly authorized to handle in the Constitution. Otherwise, they should stay out of my pocketbook, my bedroom, my church, my family, etc., etc., etc.
 
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What no Socialists, Libertarians, or Green party?

That is the problem with our political system.
We reduce immensely complex issues to a system of unsatisfying binaries.

I abstain.
 

steross

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What no Socialists, Libertarians, or Green party?
At times in my life I have been each of the above. I can't consider myself any of the above now. If I had to be pigeon-holed into something other than the grab bag of "moderate" I would say I am a liberal libertarian.;)
 

steross

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I would say a moderate is anyone watching the news that sees Tom Delay and Karl Rove and gets nauseous and then sees Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and actually vomits.
 

OKCPoke

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I would say a moderate is anyone watching the news that sees Tom Delay and Karl Rove and gets nauseous and then sees Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and actually vomits.
Yeh...there need to be definitions of each...too many people "think" they are one of the 3 but don't have a realistic idea of what each is. Considering how many Bush bashers I see here, the Liberal posters either have not seen this yet or are calling themselves Moderates.
 

Pokefan

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I would say a moderate is anyone watching the news that sees Tom Delay and Karl Rove and gets nauseous and then sees Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and actually vomits.
I'd flip it around but stil l et the general feelings. Vomit at Cheney Rove and Delay, seriously Ill with Pelosi, Clinton, Reid.

Though the Farm subsidies owes a big round of applause to Pelosi.
 

steross

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I'd flip it around but stil l et the general feelings. Vomit at Cheney Rove and Delay, seriously Ill with Pelosi, Clinton, Reid.

Though the Farm subsidies owes a big round of applause to Pelosi.
I was thinking more "previously in power" to "currently in power" but it is all the same. I dislike the extreme partisanship. I don't even mind extreme views, just partisanship. For example, I like Mike Huckabee.(?sp) Probably never would vote for him, but he is not that partisan.
 

deinstein

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What no Socialists, Libertarians, or Green party?

That is the problem with our political system.
We reduce immensely complex issues to a system of unsatisfying binaries.

I abstain.
Socialists and Green are liberals.

Liberatarians are usually moderates.

The question wasn't about party affiliation.