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Harvard Chemistry Chair & Two Chinese Nationals Arrested For Lying About China Ties, Smuggling "Biological Material"
Will this Harvard Chemistry Department Head be remembered as the Aldrich Ames of the modern-day 'Cold War'?

In a shocking revelation made Tuesday afternoon - a revelation that will almost certainly rattle the US-China relationship at an already fragile time - a federal court unsealed indictments against Harvard professor and Chemistry Department Head Charles Lieber, along with two Chinese nationals. One is a Boston University researcher who was once a lieutenant in the People’s Liberation Army, according to prosecutors, and the second was a cancer researcher who tried to smuggle 21 vials of biological materials in his sock - allegedly. Lieber has been arrested, though it's not clear if he's still in custody.

Though the official charge was lying to investigators, Lieber's actions look like an unvarnished attempt at espionage, complete with an extremely seductive monetary reward.


Lieber was reportedly paid $50,000 a month by Wuhan University of Technology for participating in its "Thousand Talents" program, and was given more than $1.5 million to establish a lab and do research at Wuhan University of Technology, according to federal prosecutors in Boston, according to WSJ.

According to prosecutors, Lieber deliberately lied to defense department officials about his "foreign research collaborations."

When Defense Department investigators asked Mr. Lieber in 2018 about his foreign research collaborations, he told them he had never been asked to participate in the Thousand Talents Program, the complaint said. But Mr. Lieber had signed such a talent contract with Wuhan University in 2012, the complaint said.

NIH also asked Harvard about Mr. Lieber’s affiliation with Wuhan that same year, the complaint said. After interviewing Mr. Lieber, Harvard told NIH in January 2019 that Mr. Lieber had no formal affiliation with Wuhan after 2012 and that he had never participated in the Thousand Talents Program, even though Mr. Lieber had a formal relationship with the university through 2017, the complaint said.

In conjunction with the program, Mr. Lieber became a “strategic scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology, according to the complaint. For “significant periods” from 2012 to 2017, his contract called for a $50,000 a month salary on top of $150,000 in living expenses paid by WUT, it said. He was also awarded more than $1.5 million by WUT and the Chinese government to set up a research lab, it said.

“The charges brought by the U.S. government against Professor Lieber are extremely serious,” a Harvard spokesman said Tuesday. “Harvard is cooperating with federal authorities, including the National Institutes of Health, and is initiating its own review of the alleged misconduct. Professor Lieber has been placed on indefinite administrative leave.”

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The Trump Administration has made cracking down on Chinese academic and corporate espionage a priority, and has made several arrests of Chinese nationals working in critical roles funneling info back to China. But this is probably the most high-profile case to date, since one of the suspects is a pioneering American scientist.

Interestingly enough, not long after news of the arrests hit the press, another report surfaced claiming China had rejected President Trump's offer of assistance to contain the coronavirus - even as Wuhan is in desperate need of supplies.
The Chinese feel that they are the worlds people...everyone else are outliers. As such they are entitled to everything in the world. They act accordingly.
 

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The Chinese feel that they are the worlds people...everyone else are outliers. As such they are entitled to everything in the world. They act accordingly.
They are the Middle Kingdom...between heaven and earth...all other people/nations are below them.
 

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Um. So. Uh. Any of you seen this yet??.... :huh:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...ying-about-chinese-government-ties/ar-BBZpS4L

Charles Lieber (Chair of Harvard Chemistry and Chemical Biology, background in nanoscience) arrested. Lied about his relationship with WUHAN UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY from whom he received monthly $50,000 payments and given $1.5mil to establish nanoscience research lab at Wuham UT....
 

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So we’ve all heard the many conspiracies going on about this. The main one being that this was a weaponized virus that accidentally got out. Here’s a really interesting take on that one. Of course, I hope none of it’s true but in today’s world, I’m not sure of most stories.
it is a weapon. But the Chinese didn’t make it. They stole it.

If you read two posts up from @oks10, about the professor who’s been arrested, this was planned all along. We engineered it to get them to quit stealing everything. Soon, we will see stories coming out of China that they will admit its man made. But they’re going to say the Americans made it. I’m sure they’ll leave the part out of the story about them stealing it. Hence, the story about this virus mainly attacking Asian males.


That’s the conspiracy. Take it with a grain of salt. I do know that governments have been working a long time on race base bioweapons, I guess I always hoped they would fail.
 

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So we’ve all heard the many conspiracies going on about this. The main one being that this was a weaponized virus that accidentally got out. Here’s a really interesting take on that one. Of course, I hope none of it’s true but in today’s world, I’m not sure of most stories.
it is a weapon. But the Chinese didn’t make it. They stole it.

If you read two posts up from @oks10, about the professor who’s been arrested, this was planned all along. We engineered it to get them to quit stealing everything. Soon, we will see stories coming out of China that they will admit its man made. But they’re going to say the Americans made it. I’m sure they’ll leave the part out of the story about them stealing it. Hence, the story about this virus mainly attacking Asian males.


That’s the conspiracy. Take it with a grain of salt. I do know that governments have been working a long time on race base bioweapons, I guess I always hoped they would fail.
That's certainly an interesting theory (and kinda funny if true, in a morbid but "that's what you get" kind of way).
 

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So we’ve all heard the many conspiracies going on about this. The main one being that this was a weaponized virus that accidentally got out. Here’s a really interesting take on that one. Of course, I hope none of it’s true but in today’s world, I’m not sure of most stories.
it is a weapon. But the Chinese didn’t make it. They stole it.

If you read two posts up from @oks10, about the professor who’s been arrested, this was planned all along. We engineered it to get them to quit stealing everything. Soon, we will see stories coming out of China that they will admit its man made. But they’re going to say the Americans made it. I’m sure they’ll leave the part out of the story about them stealing it. Hence, the story about this virus mainly attacking Asian males.


That’s the conspiracy. Take it with a grain of salt. I do know that governments have been working a long time on race base bioweapons, I guess I always hoped they would fail.
conspiracy for entertainment purposes only.

while the professor story is legit, the rest, i suspect, is made up. weird stuff(disease, illness, food) just comes out of that part of the world.
 

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conspiracy for entertainment purposes only.

while the professor story is legit, the rest, i suspect, is made up. weird stuff(disease, illness, food) just comes out of that part of the world.
Right next door to a lab that develops and works with virus's and vaccines. There is a reason the conspiracies are hanging on here.
 

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So we’ve all heard the many conspiracies going on about this. The main one being that this was a weaponized virus that accidentally got out. Here’s a really interesting take on that one. Of course, I hope none of it’s true but in today’s world, I’m not sure of most stories.
it is a weapon. But the Chinese didn’t make it. They stole it.

If you read two posts up from @oks10, about the professor who’s been arrested, this was planned all along. We engineered it to get them to quit stealing everything. Soon, we will see stories coming out of China that they will admit its man made. But they’re going to say the Americans made it. I’m sure they’ll leave the part out of the story about them stealing it. Hence, the story about this virus mainly attacking Asian males.


That’s the conspiracy. Take it with a grain of salt. I do know that governments have been working a long time on race base bioweapons, I guess I always hoped they would fail.
I was gonna say bs because that means we basically weaponized the cold and what good would that do?

Telling another country to knock it off without doing any real harm though....

 

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I was just talking about this with a coworker of mine who's from China. They mentioned that they'd been talking with someone (friend or relative) that's still living in China and asked if they'd heard about the professor. They responded that China has been reporting that the Harvard professor was a supporter of China and the Americans arrested him. Surprising failed to mention any of those payments he was receiving from China though... ;)
 
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While sitting in the Airport(Houston), I've seen 5 or 6 people wearing surgical masks. Oddly enough, everyone of them have been Asian..

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I've heard/read that it is considered polite to wear them in their culture. The idea is when someone feels symptoms coming on, they wear the mask to keep from spreading it to others.