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I was going to ask if anybody had tried the new taco place up on Boomer. I thought about going for Taco Tuesday yesterday, but decided to give them a week or two to work out the kinks.
I wanted to try it but my wife said no.we went to check out the menu and nothing comes with any sides or chips and salsa.it is all extra.she did not like the nickel and dime approach.
 

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Well. Boomer Blast is called off. The city says it's because of Covid, but rumor is they don't have enough money and are just using the pandemic as an excuse.

https://www.facebook.com/CityOfStillwater/posts/3282058775180360


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For the 2019 population estimate by the Census, Stillwater lost some people for the first time in many years, going from 50,479 in 2018 to 50, 299 in 2019. Declining enrollment at OSU and no major industrial development since ASCO finally took its toll. That and the pandemic affecting the Stillwater census from OSU closing, it's questionable if Stillwater will be at least 50,000 in 2020 to get the metro status. Stillwater now joins just about every other town in north central Oklahoma in slowly going downhill.
I love Stillwater and always will. But the worst thing about Stillwater is it’s in Oklahoma. I left about two years ago after spending 10+ years there raising a family. Don’t regret leaving at all.
 

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I love Stillwater and always will. But the worst thing about Stillwater is it’s in Oklahoma. I left about two years ago after spending 10+ years there raising a family. Don’t regret leaving at all.
What is wrong with Oklahoma? I am a life long Okie and maybe just don't know what I'm missing. I like it here and have no intention of leaving. I'm sure everywhere has pros and cons to living there. Not trying to bust your balls, just curious.
 
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I left Oklahoma right after graduation in 1981. Always thought that I would move back in retirement. Fortunately a job opened up about seven years ago and the family made the move back. I always joked that every person I met from Oklahoma always said that they would come back if they could find a job. If they were OSU people, it would be specifically Stillwater. I was sure the population in Stillwater would double if all those people came back. Very happy with the decision to come back "home".
 

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What is wrong with Oklahoma? I am a life long Okie and maybe just don't know what I'm missing. I like it here and have no intention of leaving. I'm sure everywhere has pros and cons to living there. Not trying to bust your balls, just curious.
I don't want to be too long-winded but there is a lot of contributing factors for me, but I know for other people they are perfectly happy and they have no issues. That's great. I'm not here to shit all over Oklahoma and just run away screaming it sucks as no other state or region is perfect. Everyone has issues.

I was born and raised there, my family are all lifelong Okies. I take pride in the positive attributes I posses as a person and the place I was raised has a lot to do with that. I think the glaring issue though is just overall lack of opportunity for the average person. If you are upper middle class to wealthy its a fantastic place to live and the cost of living keeps people in a very high and comfortable style of living. For everyone else though, it can be one of the most unforgiving places to try and put a life together. I myself was born into a large family with a limited income and certainly know what its like to struggle, although we were still doing ok and better than a lot of other low income families. I work in higher education (hence my being an alum and 10 year employee of the university) and my wife is a social worker. She worked in the Stillwater/Pawnee/Pawhuska region as a case manager for 3 years before we left. Those three years were very, very tough on her.

Quality of life indicators and measurements based on things like access to quality public education. Access to stable fresh food and produce, water and electricity etc. are used to measure life quality around the world by social workers, scientists blah blah blah. If you live in poverty in rural Oklahoma, it is on par with living in a third world country by these measurements. That is heart breaking. Add to that an overall lack of job opportunities around the state and overwhelming educational game of the haves and have-nots, the cycle of poverty, abuse and uneducated Oklahoman's around the state is crippling to no fault of their own other than they were just born into it. Some of these issues are just geographical, and by no means are limited strictly to Oklahoma, but the political climate in the state and the overwhelmingly conservative policies and programs of the last 20 years have put fuel on the fire. Not to mention the explosion of methamphetamine and opioids in these same rural areas to add just another layer of desperation and damage to a struggling class of people.

So all of that being said. I had a choice to make. My kids are now teenagers and soon we will be looking to choose a college and see what opportunities are out there for them to try and get themselves established as independent adults and find their niche in the world. I could stay in Oklahoma and hope that they are fortunate enough to fall into one of the limited industries nearby and find a job that both makes them happy and also provides enough opportunity to be successful in their career, or move to another place which provides all of those things simply by proximity enabled by policies and quality education that isn't constantly having funding removed and teachers paid underwhelming salaries. It was a tough decision, because it meant both my wife and I leaving our families behind and the only state we have called home, but I was able to interview and be offered a job in another place that checked all of those boxes and gave us a better shot at being happy. So we took it.
 

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I don't want to be too long-winded but there is a lot of contributing factors for me, but I know for other people they are perfectly happy and they have no issues. That's great. I'm not here to shit all over Oklahoma and just run away screaming it sucks as no other state or region is perfect. Everyone has issues.

I was born and raised there, my family are all lifelong Okies. I take pride in the positive attributes I posses as a person and the place I was raised has a lot to do with that. I think the glaring issue though is just overall lack of opportunity for the average person. If you are upper middle class to wealthy its a fantastic place to live and the cost of living keeps people in a very high and comfortable style of living. For everyone else though, it can be one of the most unforgiving places to try and put a life together. I myself was born into a large family with a limited income and certainly know what its like to struggle, although we were still doing ok and better than a lot of other low income families. I work in higher education (hence my being an alum and 10 year employee of the university) and my wife is a social worker. She worked in the Stillwater/Pawnee/Pawhuska region as a case manager for 3 years before we left. Those three years were very, very tough on her.

Quality of life indicators and measurements based on things like access to quality public education. Access to stable fresh food and produce, water and electricity etc. are used to measure life quality around the world by social workers, scientists blah blah blah. If you live in poverty in rural Oklahoma, it is on par with living in a third world country by these measurements. That is heart breaking. Add to that an overall lack of job opportunities around the state and overwhelming educational game of the haves and have-nots, the cycle of poverty, abuse and uneducated Oklahoman's around the state is crippling to no fault of their own other than they were just born into it. Some of these issues are just geographical, and by no means are limited strictly to Oklahoma, but the political climate in the state and the overwhelmingly conservative policies and programs of the last 20 years have put fuel on the fire. Not to mention the explosion of methamphetamine and opioids in these same rural areas to add just another layer of desperation and damage to a struggling class of people.

So all of that being said. I had a choice to make. My kids are now teenagers and soon we will be looking to choose a college and see what opportunities are out there for them to try and get themselves established as independent adults and find their niche in the world. I could stay in Oklahoma and hope that they are fortunate enough to fall into one of the limited industries nearby and find a job that both makes them happy and also provides enough opportunity to be successful in their career, or move to another place which provides all of those things simply by proximity enabled by policies and quality education that isn't constantly having funding removed and teachers paid underwhelming salaries. It was a tough decision, because it meant both my wife and I leaving our families behind and the only state we have called home, but I was able to interview and be offered a job in another place that checked all of those boxes and gave us a better shot at being happy. So we took it.
If you care to reveal, where did you move to?
 

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I moved to Eastern Massachusetts.
Wow. When you moved, you really moved. Glad it has all worked out for you. It is a great leap of faith to move that far away from "home." My uncle went from here to Massachusetts and was big in the education management system there for several years. Not sure what he did but made tons of $$$, went and did something similar in San Diego for a few years and recently moved back to Oklahoma and is a currently a communications specialist with OEA.
 

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I don't want to be too long-winded but there is a lot of contributing factors for me, but I know for other people they are perfectly happy and they have no issues. That's great. I'm not here to shit all over Oklahoma and just run away screaming it sucks as no other state or region is perfect. Everyone has issues.

I was born and raised there, my family are all lifelong Okies. I take pride in the positive attributes I posses as a person and the place I was raised has a lot to do with that. I think the glaring issue though is just overall lack of opportunity for the average person. If you are upper middle class to wealthy its a fantastic place to live and the cost of living keeps people in a very high and comfortable style of living. For everyone else though, it can be one of the most unforgiving places to try and put a life together. I myself was born into a large family with a limited income and certainly know what its like to struggle, although we were still doing ok and better than a lot of other low income families. I work in higher education (hence my being an alum and 10 year employee of the university) and my wife is a social worker. She worked in the Stillwater/Pawnee/Pawhuska region as a case manager for 3 years before we left. Those three years were very, very tough on her.

Quality of life indicators and measurements based on things like access to quality public education. Access to stable fresh food and produce, water and electricity etc. are used to measure life quality around the world by social workers, scientists blah blah blah. If you live in poverty in rural Oklahoma, it is on par with living in a third world country by these measurements. That is heart breaking. Add to that an overall lack of job opportunities around the state and overwhelming educational game of the haves and have-nots, the cycle of poverty, abuse and uneducated Oklahoman's around the state is crippling to no fault of their own other than they were just born into it. Some of these issues are just geographical, and by no means are limited strictly to Oklahoma, but the political climate in the state and the overwhelmingly conservative policies and programs of the last 20 years have put fuel on the fire. Not to mention the explosion of methamphetamine and opioids in these same rural areas to add just another layer of desperation and damage to a struggling class of people.

So all of that being said. I had a choice to make. My kids are now teenagers and soon we will be looking to choose a college and see what opportunities are out there for them to try and get themselves established as independent adults and find their niche in the world. I could stay in Oklahoma and hope that they are fortunate enough to fall into one of the limited industries nearby and find a job that both makes them happy and also provides enough opportunity to be successful in their career, or move to another place which provides all of those things simply by proximity enabled by policies and quality education that isn't constantly having funding removed and teachers paid underwhelming salaries. It was a tough decision, because it meant both my wife and I leaving our families behind and the only state we have called home, but I was able to interview and be offered a job in another place that checked all of those boxes and gave us a better shot at being happy. So we took it.
I've lived in rural Oklahoma, rural Mississippi, rural Georgia, and now rural Ohio. I've seen crushing poverty, despair, and pretty much all the things you've described everywhere I've lived. Nowhere have I seen worse than the Mississippi Delta. Nowhere. And it is the direct result of slavery. People still live on the same dirt floors and work the same fields. There is no hope.

I miss Oklahoma. I'll probably never live there again.
 
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What is going in the old AW Long John Silvers building?

Already cancelling the fireworks show is a joke.The city is broke and now they cancel it 6 wks early.Also they are not opening up the rundown swimming pool this year.The city is using covid as an excuse for anything lately.
 
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What is going in the old AW Long John Silvers building?

Already cancelling the fireworks show is a joke.The city is broke and now they cancel it 6 wks early.Also they are not opening up the rundown swimming pool this year.The city is using covid as an excuse for anything lately.
It’s the mayors way of giving the citizens the middle finger. He’s mad he was forced into opening the city and the number of cases has went to zero. It makes his lockdown look completely unnecessary.
 

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I've lived in rural Oklahoma, rural Mississippi, rural Georgia, and now rural Ohio. I've seen crushing poverty, despair, and pretty much all the things you've described everywhere I've lived. Nowhere have I seen worse than the Mississippi Delta. Nowhere. And it is the direct result of slavery. People still live on the same dirt floors and work the same fields. There is no hope.

I miss Oklahoma. I'll probably never live there again.
I was a prison gang investigator for many years and was sent for a month in about 2010 to do some investigative work at the prison in Tallahatchie, Mississippi. There were so many crooked staff at that prison, I couldn't believe it. Even with one of the very few "good paying" jobs there locally, they were barely making over minimum wage. That makes it easy for inmates with a little money to manipulate staff. Pretty sad to see.
 

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I heard the 19th hole has closed and that Bad Brads purchased their lease from them .

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Bad Brad's has been wanting to move to the west side of town for a while now. I figured someplace a little closer in rather than the west side equivalent of their current location, hope it works out for them and I'm happy to have something on the west side.
 

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I was a prison gang investigator for many years and was sent for a month in about 2010 to do some investigative work at the prison in Tallahatchie, Mississippi. There were so many crooked staff at that prison, I couldn't believe it. Even with one of the very few "good paying" jobs there locally, they were barely making over minimum wage. That makes it easy for inmates with a little money to manipulate staff. Pretty sad to see.
Did you ever find out why Billy Joe McAllister jumped off that bridge?
 

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What is going in the old AW Long John Silvers building?

Already cancelling the fireworks show is a joke.The city is broke and now they cancel it 6 wks early.Also they are not opening up the rundown swimming pool this year.The city is using covid as an excuse for anything lately.
How much does it cost for the city to put on the fireworks show?