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What will be the results of todays vote?

  • Trump wins big

    Votes: 11 14.1%
  • Trump wins small

    Votes: 12 15.4%
  • No decision by tomorrow morning

    Votes: 29 37.2%
  • Biden wins small

    Votes: 17 21.8%
  • Biden wins big

    Votes: 9 11.5%

  • Total voters
    78

steross

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I don't know anything about the cost of coal or solar, but this sound like bs.

If it's true I say yay, stop subsidizing both and let the market decide.
By "subsidizing" what exactly do you mean?
Do you count the millions of dollars in health care through medicare for coal miner diseases?
Do you count the massive expense of coal ash cleanup and the groundwater that is affected by poor disposal that has happened?
These subsidies occur years after the fact and are often handed over to taxpayers for dirty industry that was "cheap." The same industries that fight regulations then when the toxicity happens they say "Not our fault, we followed all the regulations." This is the downside of the Republican mantra to always "get rid of burdensome government regulations."
 

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Deciphering Joe! The home game! Get yours before the assisted living gets Joe!

https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1322906882261004288?s=20
 
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https://twitter.com/iwantbamboo/status/1322648912923078658?s=21

So are we still trying to clutch our pearls over this when this video clearly shows the dummy in the white SUV was the one driving like an a**hole? You try to crowd a jacked up F250 out of their lane, you kind of get what you deserve if their tires rub the side of your vehicle.

Is there a video of any of these guys brandishing guns or is that some extra BS to embellish the story?
Sounds like the FBI is investigating. My guess is there were plenty of people filming in the cars and bus.

By "you don't crowd me" logic that bus could have rammed all of those Trump trucks off the road. The crowded it and tailed for miles. Even blocking the road for a long period of time.

By those conservative standards they could have come out guns blazing.

Good news is Trump encouraged this behavior. If a gang of Antifa vehicles (which don't exist) did this to Trump staffers the right wing media would be calling for national guard.
 

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Sounds like the FBI is investigating. My guess is there were plenty of people filming in the cars and bus.

By "you don't crowd me" logic that bus could have rammed all of those Trump trucks off the road. The crowded it and tailed for miles. Even blocking the road for a long period of time.

By those conservative standards they could have come out guns blazing.

Good news is Trump encouraged this behavior. If a gang of Antifa vehicles (which don't exist) did this to Trump staffers the right wing media would be calling for national guard.
Were the trucks driving straight down the interstate 4 feet over into the right lane like the bus and the a$$whipe in the white SUV? Looked like all the trucks were actually in their lanes. "You don't crowd me" logic? What even is that? Drive down the interstate and try to push a big truck out of their lane and let me know how that works out for you.

Yep, you're going to get tire marks down the side of your car when you drive like this..

https://twitter.com/lisabuentello/status/1322440713959854080?s=20
 
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Sounds like the FBI is investigating. My guess is there were plenty of people filming in the cars and bus.

By "you don't crowd me" logic that bus could have rammed all of those Trump trucks off the road. The crowded it and tailed for miles. Even blocking the road for a long period of time.

By those conservative standards they could have come out guns blazing.

Good news is Trump encouraged this behavior. If a gang of Antifa vehicles (which don't exist) did this to Trump staffers the right wing media would be calling for national guard.
Yeah everybody in that video was crowding. Crowding isn’t the right word for what the suv did. They left their own lane to strike another vehicle who was in another lane.
 

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LMAO.

San Marcos police said the Biden-Harris bus requested a police escort, but due to excessive traffic officers were not able to catch the bus before it left the jurisdiction.

The police department also said it has researched the crash and watched online video. It said the “at-fault vehicle” may be the Biden-Harris staffer’s car, while the “victim” appears to be one of the Trump vehicles.

“The at-fault vehicle may be the white SUV and the victim appears to be the black truck,” a statement from SMPD reads.
https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/dem...supporters-surround-follow-biden-bus-on-i-35/
 
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Yeah everybody in that video was crowding. Crowding isn’t the right word for what the suv did. They left their own lane to strike another vehicle who was in another lane.
Well guys, you are defeding the same black truck that bumps into the white car who also tried to run over BLM protestors back in Sept:

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/...ters/273-858757ed-4730-48e5-b37a-b0416ee3cc91

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJuLLbH5/

For all the Trumpers claiming that it was actually the SUV who initiated the incident: VIDEO

The white SUV was behind the bus from the beginning.

These trucks literally surrounded the bus and "escorted" it by not letting it move. That is illegal on several different fronts. Add in that it is a campaign bus for a POTUS election and it is literal terrorism.
 

jetman

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Well guys, you are defeding the same black truck that bumps into the white car who also tried to run over BLM protestors back in Sept:

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/...ters/273-858757ed-4730-48e5-b37a-b0416ee3cc91

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJuLLbH5/

For all the Trumpers claiming that it was actually the SUV who initiated the incident: VIDEO

The white SUV was behind the bus from the beginning.

These trucks literally surrounded the bus and "escorted" it by not letting it move. That is illegal on several different fronts. Add in that it is a campaign bus for a POTUS election and it is literal terrorism.
The white SUV 100% initiated that incident leading them to get tire marks down the side of their vehicle. Nothing you posted proves it's the other way around. San Marcos police disagree with you.
 
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The white SUV 100% initiated that incident leading them to get tire marks down the side of their vehicle. Nothing you posted proves it's the other way around. San Marcos police disagree with you.
I like how you think the biggest concern here is a traffic violation about the collision and not the fact a campaign bus was systematically surrounded and harassed by dozens of trucks for hours. Which is of course illegal. And local police did nothing. That car was trying to stick with the bus after being surrounded for miles. You think maybe they were a little nervous and doing everything they could to not get separated. I mean there have been how many threats of kidnapping people now?

But again let's focus on the collision. Which again was ignored by police. By a vehicle that had been aggressively following you for hours and was a few feet behind the bus it was harassing.

The only crowding being initiated is by the 20 plus MAGA cult trucks. The bus and SUV were literally driving down a highway. This is the exact same thing as a mob of rioters coming up to a few people. Not letting you walk and then hitting you if you bump into them while trying to stay together. Biden never defended violence and tried to calm it down during the protests. Trump is literally cheering these guys on.
 

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I like how you think the biggest concern here is a traffic violation about the collision and not the fact a campaign bus was systematically surrounded and harassed by dozens of trucks for hours. Which is of course illegal. And local police did nothing. That car was trying to stick with the bus after being surrounded for miles. You think maybe they were a little nervous and doing everything they could to not get separated. I mean there have been how many threats of kidnapping people now?

But again let's focus on the collision. Which again was ignored by police. By a vehicle that had been aggressively following you for hours and was a few feet behind the bus it was harassing.

The only crowding being initiated is by the 20 plus MAGA cult trucks. The bus and SUV were literally driving down a highway. This is the exact same thing as a mob of rioters coming up to a few people. Not letting you walk and then hitting you if you bump into them while trying to stay together. Biden never defended violence and tried to calm it down during the protests. Trump is literally cheering these guys on.
I like how you are trying act like something major happened here when the actual police department of the city it happened in are saying the white SUV is the one at fault. It is impossible for me to act like this is even a blip on the radar after months of this....

https://twitter.com/nofilterchristn/status/1316782641560072197?s=20
 

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Sounds like the FBI is investigating. My guess is there were plenty of people filming in the cars and bus.

By "you don't crowd me" logic that bus could have rammed all of those Trump trucks off the road. The crowded it and tailed for miles. Even blocking the road for a long period of time.

By those conservative standards they could have come out guns blazing.

Good news is Trump encouraged this behavior. If a gang of Antifa vehicles (which don't exist) did this to Trump staffers the right wing media would be calling for national guard.
If you can take the Maga or Biden stickers off the vehicles and treat it like any other driving altercation, any wreck that would have occurred would have been on the person trying to merge. But ultimately it gets back to the same theory that fits most viral videos online. It's fairly self explanatory, I call it the 2 a-hole theory.
 
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If you can take the Maga or Biden stickers off the vehicles and treat it like any other driving altercation, any wreck that would have occurred would have been on the person trying to merge. But ultimately it gets back to the same theory that fits most viral videos online. It's fairly self explanatory, I call it the 2 a-hole theory.
No, one is a bus and a car trying to caravan down a road. The other is dozens of people purposely trying to surround and harass them.

They are literally yelling and surrounding them genius.
 

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No, one is a bus and a car trying to caravan down a road. The other is dozens of people purposely trying to surround and harass them.

They are literally yelling and surrounding them genius.
Yelling isn't a traffic violation. Neither is driving in the lane next to someone. Tailgating maybe.
 

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The left does it more than the right, but people's home should be off limits. Lack of civility is becoming too common.
The left does it more as the right is in power.
The left did not do it much at all during the Obama presidency.
I suspect that will revert again if Biden wins.
 

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Yelling isn't a traffic violation. Neither is driving in the lane next to someone. Tailgating maybe.
You are complaining about lack of civility in one post and defending it in another. No matter who is at fault in the minor fender bender that was the result, clearly there was a lack of civility in what they were doing to the campaign caravan.
 
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The left does it more than the right, but people's home should be off limits. Lack of civility is becoming too common.
You all have gotten to the point where you are excusing literal campaign based aggression(100% back by the POTUS) because some non affiliated protesters rioted because someone was killed by a policeman.

On is loosely in line with the left ideology and denounced by Left leadership. Mostly a riot about society as a whole. The other is 100% Trump driven and supported.