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    Football program bought and paid for:

    “[Jackie] Cooper owned several automobile dealerships in the Oklahoma
    > City-Norman area…Cooper joined me in the men’s room and asked me if I had
    > a car. When I said I didn’t he said, ‘Well, why don’t you get my phone
    > number from Keith [Jackson] and give me a call? You come on down to the
    > lot and pick something out. And don’t worry, we’ll work something out.’ ”
    > – former OU quarterback Charles Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “Brian [Bosworth] wasn’t the only OU player to use steroids. I knew
    > first-hand of five players and was told by others that there were about a
    > dozen.” – former OU quarterback Charles Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “I had always thought, growing up, that college was special; yet here I
    > was and everyone was cheating. Whether they were NCAA rules, OU rules, or
    > society’s rules, my coaches and instructors were demonstrating to me that
    > they didn’t apply to good football players.” – former OU quarterback
    > Charles Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “My family and I got thousands of dollars from OU boosters in exchange for
    > my spending time with them talking about football. I was their toy to show
    > off to their friends and I cost them no more than other gadgets that are
    > signs of success. I had yet to play in one football game for the
    > University of Oklahoma, but there were at least ten wealthy Sooner
    > businessmen who were prepared to help me at any time. If I sound
    > ungrateful it’s only because I’ve learned how phony they are. You learn
    > that once you’re no longer on the football team, you’re no longer someone
    > they need to know.” – former OU quarterback Charles Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “Another OU booster in Norman owned a car dealership, and I chose a white
    > Buick Regal that cost about seventy-five hundred dollars. The deal was for
    > me to put down two thousand, and have a loan taken out by a friend, in
    > this case a former teacher at Lawton High School, for the balance. I was
    > able to get the two thousand from a few boosters and return the same day
    > to pick up the car. The car wasn’t in my name, but I owned it, and I
    > didn’t give a damn…” – former OU quarterback Charles Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “Frank Vale owned a large furniture store. Whatever we needed to furnish
    > the apartment—couches, tables, chairs, waterbed—Frank gave to us. All he
    > wanted in return was to hang out with us and have us sing the pictures he
    > had hanging in the windows of his store. I have no doubt about Frank’s
    > sincere desire to help us out, but it remains a mystery why he and other
    > wealthy businessmen went out of their way to please teenagers with whom
    > they had little in common. It was more than supporting your neighborhood
    > football team, when you consider that they were endangering the team by
    > violating NCAA regulations. Even after OU was put on suspension by the
    > NCAA in December 1988, Frank continued to wire Jamelle [Holieway] and me
    > money from Tulsa. Of course, players like Jamelle and myself were too
    > greedy to worry about NCAA regulations, except to make sure we didn’t get
    > caught breaking them.” – former OU quarterback Charles Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “We rarely paid for anything. Beer and booze were supplied to us by
    > Switzer. All we had to do was go to his house and he would load up the
    > trunk of our car…We even stopped paying rent to the landlord. All we did
    > was go to Frank Vale or some other booster and they would make up the two
    > hundred fifty we owed each month. We found none of this strange and, in
    > fact, only expected things to get better. I think Jamelle’s [Holieway]
    > greatest goal in life was to one day be an OU booster.” – former OU
    > quarterback Charles Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > Ted Koppel: “Before the break Rick Telander asked president David Swank of
    > the University of Oklahoma what kind of a record Barry Switzer could bring
    > back and, I guess the thrust of it was, still hold on to his job—was that
    > it, Rick”
    >
    > Rick Telander: “Yes.”
    >
    > Ted Koppel: “What do you think, Mr. Swank?”
    >
    > David Swank: “Again, I don’t see that an excellent athletic program is
    > inconsistent with having a high-quality academic program. I don’t know
    > that I can give a won-loss record, but I CAN tell you that we will place
    > emphasis first on academics at the University of Oklahoma…We’re not going
    > to tolerate people, as you say, being thrown in the slammer. I can’t tell
    > you what record should exist.”
    >
    > Ted Koppel: “You COULD tell me that it doesn’t matter to you. That what
    > matters, what is important to you, is what kind of an education those
    > youngsters get, that if [Switzer] comes in with a losing record, but
    > creates good student-athletes, you’ll be happy with him. You could say
    > that.”
    >
    > David Swank: “Well, again, I want a top-quality athletic program…”
    >
    > --exchange on ABC News program Nightline, March 1989
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “I had to marvel at Swank’s refusal to say he’d accept a losing record. I
    > figured Oklahoma fans wouldn’t be thrilled by a lousy record; after all,
    > they’d almost ridden Switzer out of town when his teams went 7-4, 8-4, and
    > 8-4 from 1981 to 1983. But the college president? It was plain that he was
    > afraid that if he publicly lowered the expectations placed on Sooner
    > football teams, the board of regents would string him up like a bad
    > coyote.” – Rick Telander, The Hundred Yard Lie, 1990
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “The Sooners’ winning tradition on the field has been overshadowed by an
    > ugly atmosphere of lawlessness.” –Rick Telander and Robert Sullivan,
    > Sports Illustrated, 1989
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “Even former Sooners are beginning to turn against Switzer. On Monday, Jim
    > Owens, co-captain of the 1949 team, said that that squad would be
    > canceling its 40th reunion in April to express disgust and embarrassment
    > over the recent events in Norman.” –Rick Telander and Robert Sullivan,
    > Sports Illustrated, 1989
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “In September, [former OU player Brian] Bosworth, who’s now with the
    > Seattle Seahawks, released his autobiography, ‘The Boz’ (written with SI’s
    > Rick Reilly). It describes wanton drug use, off-the-field violence,
    > gunplay in the dorm and other manifestations of berserk behavior by
    > football players during his years as a Sooner. In Norman, Bosworth was
    > derided as a vengeful muckraker—from Texas, no less. The book, said
    > defenders of the Sooners, was full of exaggerations, if not outright lies.
    > Three months later the NCAA released its findings, which contained, in
    > less lively prose, some of the same things Bosworth had recounted.” –Rick
    > Telander and Robert Sullivan, Sports Illustrated, 1989
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “We want to fight because I feel this will happen again and again and
    > again. [My daughter] thought she was safe because of who they were and
    > where they were at…She know they were OU players, and she thought she
    > would be safe with them.” – Interview aired by KTVY-TV in 1989 with the
    > mother of an young woman allegedly raped by OU athletes at Bud Wilkinson
    > Hall. The woman’s identity was concealed.
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “After receiving a tip during the weekend of Feb 11 – 12, Switzer told [OU
    > player Charles] Thompson on Monday that he was under investigation.
    > However, the FBI, which reportedly photographed its alleged undercover
    > transaction with Thompson, was hoping to break a much bigger case. It
    > wasn’t ready to arrest Thompson, but Switzer’s warning forced the bureau’s
    > hand and brought an important operation to a premature end…” –Rick
    > Telander and Robert Sullivan, Sports Illustrated, 1989
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “Four days before Oklahoma faced Clemson in the Citrus Bowl on Jan. 2 in
    > Orlando, Fla., Sooner assistant Scott Hill, who had earlier been
    > reprimanded by the NCAA for recruiting improprieties and who may not
    > recruit off-campus in 1990, engaged in what [then OU athletic director
    > Donnie] Duncan calls ‘horseplay’ at the posh Lake Nona Golf Club. Hill ran
    > up a $475 bar tab with other Oklahoma coaches and was involved in
    > roughhousing that resulted in a shattered cherrywood chair and a damaged
    > table. Hill later slammed bowl official Tony Martin into a car, bruising
    > his cheek and chest…Not to be outdone by their coaches, a number of
    > players trashed their rooms at the Peabody Hotel in Orlando. Switzer’s
    > response was to upbraid the local press for reporting on the hotel
    > incident.” –Rick Telander and Robert Sullivan, Sports Illustrated, 1989
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “Some observers have been wondering how bad things have to get before the
    > NCAA steps in and shuts down the Sooners’ football program, but in fact,
    > the NCAA is concerned only with breaches of its recruiting and academic
    > rules, not with honest-to-goodness crime. ‘With criminal proceedings we
    > let people with subpoena powers, people who can put people in jail, do
    > their work,’ says NCAA enforcement director David Berst. Thus the Oklahoma
    > football program has been fortunate that its alleged transgressions since
    > with place on NCAA probation have been criminal; one more free pizza to a
    > recruit, and the program could have been sent to the NCAA gallows.” …”
    > –Rick Telander and Robert Sullivan, Sports Illustrated, 1989
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “It all makes me sick…I remember how all of it started here. It was 1945
    > and the war had ended, and here in Oklahoma we were still feeling very
    > depressed from those tough days that Steinbeck wrote about in ‘The Grapes
    > of Wrath.’ At a board of regents meeting, it was suggested to me that I
    > try to get a good football team. It would give Oklahomans a reason to have
    > pride in the state. And it did, but I don’t think it was very good for the
    > university.” –former OU president George Cross, 1989
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “I’ve never seen a zoo run like [Oklahoma].” – OU associate professor of
    > geology Michael Engel, 1987
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “When I returned from court a few days later I asked Switzer about the
    > community work. Again, he told me not to worry about it and that Shirley
    > Vaughn would take care of it. Shirley officially was a recruitment
    > assistant, but she was Barry Switzer’s right-hand woman. She handled
    > things like airline tickets, game tickets, spending money. (In December
    > 1988, she was cited by the NCAA and fired by OU for recruitment
    > violations.) Switzer told me that Shirley would be able to have the
    > community service hours written off for me. When I reported to Shirley and
    > asked her where I should go to begin the work, she told me that it was all
    > being taken care of. That was one of the many times during my first
    > semester that I went to her about it, and each time her answer was the
    > same: It was being taken care of.” – former OU quarterback Charles
    > Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “The people in Oklahoma knew of his business dealings. They knew of his
    > marital problems and his other women, including the wife of an assistant
    > coach. They knew that and more, but were never much concerned about any of
    > it.” – former OU quarterback Charles Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “[Switzer] drank hard, loved to run around with women, and his players
    > followed his example. He could outparty any of us. He enjoyed good wine
    > and Scotch. When we drank with him, he put us under the table. At first, I
    > looked up to him for it; later, his behavior puzzled me. It seems weird
    > that a man more than twice my age was carrying on as he was, going out
    > with women younger than my girlfriends.” – former OU quarterback Charles
    > Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “Like Keith Jackson, [Brian Bosworth] advised me about the advantages of
    > being a Sooner, especially when dealing with alumni and boosters. He told
    > me to remember that although there was a great deal I could get from them,
    > they were not my friends.” – former OU quarterback Charles Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “Keith [Jackson] taught me all I needed to know about ‘freaking’ – dealing
    > with boosters and alumni when you attain a certain level of popularity and
    > stature and when they want to court you…Freaking with boosters and alumni
    > meant they showered you with gifts and money, and sometimes drugs…Keith’s
    > attitude was that when you are offered gifts from the boosters always show
    > some appreciation and never abuse their generosity…He didn’t always have
    > his hand out because he believed that he would be able to return to the
    > boosters after his career was over and, should he need it, they would help
    > him. I watched Keith do favors for boosters and receive nothing in
    > return.” – former OU quarterback Charles Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “There were other instructors who were boosters and showed favoritism to
    > the athletes in their classes. Although I didn’t expect to have any
    > difficulty in my Business Communication course, the instructor volunteered
    > that because I was busy with football practice I would only have to
    > complete eight of sixteen assignments.” – former OU quarterback Charles
    > Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “[Jamelle Holieway] enjoyed partying and was a heavy drinker. When I
    > started hanging around with him that spring he was into cocaine.” – former
    > OU quarterback Charles Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “For the next two weeks everyone on the football team who knew about what
    > had happened in Jamelle’s [Holieway] room waited for the police to raid
    > Bud Hall. Nothing happened. The girl’s father was a big booster who was
    > friends with Switzer. When he learned about what had happened to his
    > daughter he was furious and threatened to press charges against the whole
    > football team. Switzer asked him to wait before pressing charges and that
    > he would straighten out the mess. Time went by and nothing happened. There
    > were rumors about the booster being bought off, nobody knows for certain
    > what happened, but the matter died.” – former OU quarterback Charles
    > Thompson
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops dismissed starting defensive tackle Dusty
    > Dvoracek from the team Friday while police investigated an incident that
    > ended with one of Dvoracek's high school teammates in the hospital.
    > Earlier in the day, the Sooners had suspended Dvoracek indefinitely, but
    > Stoops announced in a statement late Friday night that Dvoracek, an
    > All-Big 12 selection and third team All-American last season, had been
    > dismissed…Norman police said Friday they had contacted the family of Matt
    > Wilde, one of Dvoracek's teammates at Lake Dallas (Texas) High School.
    > Wilde suffered a head injury either late Saturday or early Sunday. His
    > condition was upgraded from fair to good, Paula Price, a spokeswoman for
    > Norman Regional Hospital said Friday.” –Associated Press, September 17,
    > 2004
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “The NCAA on Tuesday notified Oklahoma that it had granted a medical
    > hardship waiver to allow defensive tackle Dusty Dvoracek to play a fifth
    > season with the Sooners. Dvoracek, a third-team All-American last season,
    > was kicked off the team in September after he was involved in a fight at a
    > Norman bar in which one of his high-school friends was injured. Oklahoma
    > last week applied for a medical hardship on Dvoracek's behalf, but it was
    > denied by the Big 12 Conference. Upon appeal, the NCAA's reinstatement
    > staff granted the waiver Monday. .” –Associated Press, December 14, 2004
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > Coach Bob Stoops said right guard J.D. Quinn, a 19-year-old arrested for
    > driving under the influence early Nov. 1, will play against Texas A&M.
    > Stoops said any punishment will be dealt with internally. "We'll deal with
    > it as we have so many others," Stoops said.” – Dallas Morning News, Nov.
    > 9, 2005
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “Oklahoma quarterback Rhett Bomar pleaded guilty Tuesday to a misdemeanor
    > charge of being a minor in possession of alcohol…Oklahoma spokesman Kenny
    > Mossman said any discipline would be handled internally and coach Bob
    > Stoops would not have any comment.” – Associated Press, May 31, 2006
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “[OU’s] compliance department has come under scrutiny in the wake of the
    > revelation that [Sooner players] Bomar and Quinn were paid for hours they
    > did not work at a Norman car dealership. Tack on the NCAA probation
    > recently imposed on the men's basketball program -- and the finding of a
    > "failure in monitoring" recruiting phone calls by the compliance
    > department -- and some have suggested OU's compliance efforts have been
    > lacking and are in need of an overhaul.” – George Schrader, The Oklahoman,
    > Aug 27, 2006
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > " ‘I'm not really supposed to discuss it,’ [OU freshman recruit Craig]
    > Roark said Thursday. ‘Coach Stoops doesn't want me to discuss why I'm
    > leaving. I don't want to say anything bad about the University of
    > Oklahoma.’ ” – USAToday, April 27, 2006
    >
    > **********************************************************************
    >
    > “Notable OU player dismissals during the Bob Stoops era
    > April 2, 2002: Sophomore quarterback Hunter Wall is dismissed hours after
    > Wall was arrested for burglary and possession of marijuana.
    >
    > May 4, 2002: Walk-on defensive end Claude Clayborne, a sophomore from
    > Spiro, is dismissed following an arrest. Clayborne is charged with
    > attempted robbery with an imitation firearm, with threatening violent
    > action and with unlawfully carrying a weapon.
    >
    > Sept. 17, 2004: Defensive tackle Dusty Dvoracek is dismissed amid mounting
    > allegations of violent behavior. OU head football coach Bob Stoops
    > announced the decision in a statement released by the school.
    >
    > Dvoracek is re-instated the following season.
    >
    > March 30, 2006: Punter Cody Freeby was suspended and eventually dismissed
    > from the team.
    >
    > After a practice on Owen Field, Stoops said Freeby is currently suspended
    > for ‘academic and team reasons.’ ” – The Daily Oklahoman, August 3, 2006
    >

    Craeative cheating.
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    We crushed you 27-0 with the JV squad. We lead Bedlam football by a ungodly sum. We lead the basketball series by 20+ games,
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    I am just thankful you finally quit talking about penis.
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    He just quit talking about them...he's still thinking about em.
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    Oh, and a period should've followed "back." And "Dexter learn to read yet?" is an incomplete sentence. You might precede "Dexter" with "Has."
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    Well I hope you are capable of taking on such a project as myself as I'm sure Dexter is taking up the majority of your time and resources
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    No no no... This is his profile pic.
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    Now I know why he's obsessed with a penis, he doesn't have one.
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    Ownage.


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    Yeah, cause we had a healthy full squad...

    You want to talk about basketball HISTORY now??

    You're too ignorant for your own good.

    "IGNORE"
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    ooooo my feelings are hurt.. lmfao
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    http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2007/07/23/footballs-dirtiest-programs-9-oklahoma-st/


    Here at number nine the Big XII makes its first appearance on the list, but it will probably not be the last. (Did you see that? I like to call it 'foreshadowing'.) The Cowboys are another team for whom years of wanton violations are rolled up into one massive finding of major infractions.

    The Reading between the lines on the NCAA's report, you get the distinct impression that the Committee on Infractions was not at all impressed by Jimmy Johnson, the head football coach at OSU for the vast majority (if not all of) these violations. That report also started with words that have a tendency to induce profane language in many fans: "This infractions case began . . . when anonymous and confidential sources telephoned the NCAA enforcement staff." Sorry, No Photos

    There was an awful lot going on in Stillwater, though, as evidenced by the sheer number of violations (40) and the fact that it took almost five years from that anonymous call until the Committee's report was published.

    At the heart of the violations were numerous recruiting practices which were proscribed by the NCAA, including the use of "large sums of cash" to lure prospects and "widespread and admitted disregard for basic recruiting rules concerning the number of contacts allowed with prospective student-athletes". The thing that really tweaked the Committee on Infractions, though, was the fact that the assistant coaches involved admitted that they knew they were breaking the rules as they were breaking them.

    The most interesting of the transgressions was a bidding war between an unnamed assistant coach and three other schools for a highly touted recruit. OSU won the bidding war and the recruit got $5,000 on signing day, regular payments averaging between $100 and $200 during his first two years, and an "expensive and distinctive sports car" which was put in his brother's name.

    To make matters worse, the assistant in question had already had one run-in with the Committee prior to being hired by Oklahoma State and the head coach who hired him (probably Jimmy Johnson) was not interested in the veracity or reasons for those violations. Instead, Johnson's primary concern was whether or not those violations would keep the assistant from immediately starting his work at OSU. As you might imagine, this did not sit well with the NCAA.

    The Cowboys were hit with some fairly major penalties in 1978, followed by the disclosure of a large "slush fund" the following year. After, essentially, pleading for mercy (and receiving it) OSU was clean. For "several months" before they went back to their old tricks, which continued for the duration of Johnson's stay in Stillwater.

    The Committee really brought he hammer down on the Cowboys, four years of probation, three years of no post-season play, and two years of TV ban. Although they suspended this portion of the sentence, the committee also ordered the Cowboys to cancel three home, in-conference games. Toss in some scholarship and recruiting restrictions and you have what amounted to the most serious penalties since SMU's death penalty.

    Scoreboard:

    * Unethical Conduct (5 points)
    * Lack of Institutional Control (10 points)
    * Probation: 4 years (8 points)
    * Post-season ban: 3 years (9 points)
    * TV ban: 2 years (6 points)
    * Initial Scholarships: 15 (7.5 points)
    * TOTAL: 45.50 points

    This one ranks #4 on the single-violation list in the modern era of infractions.


    sooo in short Aggies are Aggies even while cheating, you still couldn't win crap
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    That's it? That's the best you got...cheater u ranks as one of the three ALL TIME most cheating sports programs. Notice I didn't limit it to football, you're #1 again in that. Your cheaters just, finally, got 3 separate programs off probation at the same time. Nice job, gymnastics, football and basketball ALL on probation at the same time. Okie u has 7 major infractions, OSU has about half that. Your football team has been caught cheating every year and yet you can't win a BCS bowl game, even when cheating. I know that's got to burn a little punk like you up... I mean you've ben taught your whole life that if you cheat well enough, you'll win. But alas, your sorry bunch of money grubbing athletes just can't make it happen.
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    6 Big XII Titles,2 Heisman Trophies,1 NC, 1 Cotton, 1 Rose, 1 Holiday, 1 Sun Bowl,. one decade span that is a 1,000,000x times better than anything OSU has every accomplished in its football history. Our "money grubbing" athletes do just fine
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    Tiny will be fine just as long as he doesn't lie about it. That's much more important than him taking money.
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    Uh huh...sure they do...4th in Big 12 South last year and a mercy bid to the Taco Bowl ONLY because Notre Dame was too embarrassed to go. Success.
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    rotflmao talk wrestling,basketball or golf smack but you got bent over to the tune of 27-0 in football when all you had to do was win to make a bcs game
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    $3,000, free gas, free cars...it's tough to beat cheaters. You got what you deserved though, Taco Bowl, no invite to even the Not Invited Tourny...now Queen Boren's gonna have to make more excuses to the NCAA on why his business...er, school is not "out of control". Too rich. Give me something other than one sport punk.

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