Browns targeting 'The Weeden' for QB competition

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OSUndefeated

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I'm not trying to insult you, trust me. Its just that almost everytime I read what you post it tends to be in the defense of the opposition. Which is fine, im not saying you have to be wearing your orange colored glasses all the time. The past few times you have replied to me its been to state the opposit, which is fine you dont have to agree with me. I just find it odd that :

1. You dont think Weeden is knows for his Leadership/maturity first

2. You jumped on the Tanne wagon fast. Did you not see him play last year?

You may not think that Tannehill is better than weeden but you come across that way and to be honest that is just silly, OSU Fan or not. Yet ... you are an OSU fan...So ya, I dont get it
1. Right. I think he is known as a helluva talented quarterback first, and a great leader second.

2. I've never been on or off the Tannehill wagon, if you can even call it that. I'm just saying that if he is drafted in the top 10 (which he likely will be) you better believe those coaches analyzed him closer than any of us have and liked what they saw enough to use that high of a pick on him.

What you don't understand is that NFL scouts aren't just looking at how Tannehill did last year. They are looking at upside and potential. As I've said before, he is very similar to Blaine Gabbert as a prospect in my opinion. Great upside if utilized and developed correctly.
 

PokeLady211

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1. Right. I think he is known as a helluva talented quarterback first, and a great leader second.

2. I've never been on or off the Tannehill wagon, if you can even call it that. I'm just saying that if he is drafted in the top 10 (which he likely will be) you better believe those coaches analyzed him closer than any of us have and liked what they saw enough to use that high of a pick on him.

What you don't understand is that NFL scouts aren't just looking at how Tannehill did last year. They are looking at upside and potential. As I've said before, he is very similar to Blaine Gabbert as a prospect in my opinion. Great upside if utilized and developed correctly.
I totally see your Tannehill part. Im just saying sometimes you are so quick to defend the opposition it makes me wonder. I know what the scouts are seeing if you are measuring him up alone. Why I was saying what I did was because he was being compared to Weeden. I get the "logic" of age, but I think what is beginning to happen is these "experts" are starting to realize that you cant size these two up together. they are 2 completely different packages.
 

OSUndefeated

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I totally see your Tannehill part. Im just saying sometimes you are so quick to defend the opposition it makes me wonder. I know what the scouts are seeing if you are measuring him up alone. Why I was saying what I did was because he was being compared to Weeden. I get the "logic" of age, but I think what is beginning to happen is these "experts" are starting to realize that you cant size these two up together. they are 2 completely different packages.
I'm always quick to defend the logical and unbiased side of arguments (except for some occasions when it pertains to OU). Whether I like the player/team or not, I try to remain objective.
 
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Debatable.



I'm not comparing Weeden to Manning per se. But you're right about the money which just makes my point stronger. At best, I'm comparing their current situations. The point being if a professional team will drop 96 mill on a 36 yr old QB (career granted) who missed the previous year with a major neck injury, then BW getting drafted in the first round is not a reach.

As for Manning's status, maybe he is fine and near 100%. Ever seen a QB get blind sided? You think there isn't some level of risk for a guy who had some number of surgeries on his neck and missed an entire season? There is definitely a risk of having a 36 yr old QB with neck injury getting hammered and ending his career. Most professionals do not come back with fused vertabrae and perform like they did. We'll see if P Manning is an exception.

That said, for me to compare their careers would be foolish. Any idiot knows that.
I think the main difference is that Manning is a QB that teams were chasing for a Super Bowl right now. This season or the next. They were going to take a risk that he gets an entire season or two of football out there before being re-injured. The reason this works for Manning and not Weeden is teams know Manning is a Super Bowl level QB. Weeden, as good as he is, is a rookie, that is an extra layer of gamble.

I see the comparison, but I don't think that Weeden resonates with GMs the way Manning did, too far from their comfort zone.