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Mike Holder

Discussion in 'OSU Sports Forum' started by eric wright, Mar 18, 2017.

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  1. spcaa

    spcaa Cowboy

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    100% Agree.

    When someone cheats on their spouse, they often look to alleviate their guilt by pointing out all the issues in the relationship.
     
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  2. vox populi

    vox populi Wrangler

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    Again, it doesn't add up. If he wanted more money he would have taken the UNLV job before the OSU job. It's not about money...
     
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  3. Cimarron

    Cimarron It's not dying I'm talking about, it's living.

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    What did Underwood lie about?
     
  4. RutherfordFan

    RutherfordFan Federal Marshal

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    It was completely retarded for Holder to bring up Travis Ford. If you want to low ball that's not HOW to do it. Thus my point. You can try to negotiate without being an ass. Holder might be smart but not a people person. He's an ASS. Not saying it's on purpose. I think he's a good man just has not idea how to get along with people or how to approach men with egos. You'd think he would know, his ego is big too.
     
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  5. RutherfordFan

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    exactly it doesn't add up. Holder screwed up massively and offended Underwood. Underwood didn't like his basketball vision. Bringing up Iowa State haha or Kstate haha. NO freakin way. We should be bringing up Kansas and how to get there.

    As long as we think like losers we don't improve.
     
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  6. Cimarron

    Cimarron It's not dying I'm talking about, it's living.

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    This right here, Underwood may have given OSU something of value here.
     
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  7. vox populi

    vox populi Wrangler

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    Anyone have any regents on speed dial?;)
     
  8. Cimarron

    Cimarron It's not dying I'm talking about, it's living.

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    Not currently, no.

    My guess is though there has been more than 1 call placed to each regent and the President's office today.

    Alumni don't seem to be happy at all over this.
     
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  9. vox populi

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    Please God, please let this be a reality.
     
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  10. Cro

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    it will only be a reality if Boone wants it to................
     
  11. CowboyOrangeFan

    CowboyOrangeFan Mmmm, yeah.
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    Holder has had incident after incident where he has rubbed someone the wrong way. So concentrating on the Travis Ford name drop is probably missing the bigger point. Holder sucks (I mean royally sucks) at dealing with people. I have heard that directly from AD employees and donors. Many of whom HATE dealing with him.

    That is what cost us here. Like I said before, Underwood appears to be a slimeball, but we wouldn't be in this mess if it wasn't for Holder. Either because he screwed up with Underwood (very similar to the Gundy incidents) or because he screwed up with Ford. No matter what, it is his fault. The guy is not an athletic director. He just isn't. He is just Boone's appointed custodian of the athletic department.

    Of course he is also a legendary Cowboy who loves OSU. Which makes me even more sad that he is making such a mess of it.
     
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  12. all pro

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  13. PairofCowboys

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    Do you think it's possible that Holder didn't mess it up and knew exactly what he was doing here?

    If you establish a climate where you let a first year coach who has accomplished nothing spend his time flirting with other jobs and then forcing you to bid against them, you're screwed as an AD.

    Underwood gambled, and now he gets to join the fraternity of coaches who have tried to win big at Illinois. Let's see how that pays off.
     
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  14. CowboyOrangeFan

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    No. Based on his past performance and my own conversations with former subordinates, that thought never even crossed my mind.
     
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    The Pokes aren't the 2nd best job in the b12 :confused: :whistle:
     
  16. coolreed

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    Holder has made a series of bad decisions that have cost OSU millions. I do not know of any university that made their Golf Coach the Athletic Director. Travis Ford was a Big Big Mistake, properly channeling of funding has been another issue, not getting along with Gundy is another and now the Underwood debacle. Holder needs to resign.
     
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  17. Rack

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    No, I want, in a perfect world, ideally 'Alumni' or others that truly understand our culture who want to make this their destination job and care more about the actual job than the paycheck. I don't think that's too much to ask. I don't really see how any Alumni wouldn't want to give Doug an opportunity and see where it leads...I'm willing to bet that the program would be back to near Eddie levels within three years.
     
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    So, get rid of Holder now or, wait till he finalizes the new baseball stadium? He might not be a people person but
    Football
    IPF
    Track
    Tennis
    Dude gets shit built.
     
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    I think his own comments about being shocked by Underwood leaving and thinking they were going to continue negotiations would indicate he didn't know exactly what he was doing. I don't think he intended to run Underwood off.
     
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  20. Cimarron

    Cimarron It's not dying I'm talking about, it's living.

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    Odds on getting a response from okierock?
     
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