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Discussion in 'World News & Politics' started by OSU Sig, Jun 10, 2009.
Cut the crap.
The cultural rights persecution complex is sad.
I didn't start it.
What did the two of you get tired of trying to defend Letterman and now you start on me? Priceless.
Where did I defend Letterman? And for that matter, where did I go after you personally?
Instead of me listing yet again the many legitimate reasons why I do not care for Sarah Palin, what do you think they are? Hint: it is not because she is Republican, "conservative," Alaskan, or a woman.
Enough. For you assclowns defending Letterman you are completely wrong. What if the comments were about your wife or daughter? Would you feel the same way? And before you insult your own intelligence, you know you wouldn't.
So are the Obama girls off limits? What happens when someone makes inappropriate remarks about them? My guess is that you will call for the wrath of God.
See, e.g., John McCain's comments about Chelsea Clinton.
I love the logic here, because John McCain made an idiotic statement once it's open season for anyone the left wants to go after. When did two wrongs start making a right? Really, NYC, you're better than that.
Didn't say that. I'm just pointing out that these sorts of stupid comments come from all sides (and Letterman used to be a conservative, so I don't know what "side" he's on). Anyone trying to claim moral high ground needs to check inside their own tent. Comments like that from a sitting Senator and future presidential candidate should carry far more import than an offhand crack by an apolitical late night talk show host.
Neither should have made disparaging comments. Unfortunately, people forget that these are mothers, daughters, sisters, etc. and in the name of partisan politics some think that they are fair game. We as a society are better than this.
I must've missed part of the thread, and I'm too lazy to go back and read. I don't know what Letterman said, but he's a comedian. He makes fun of people. That's his shtick. He belittles guests who sit in the chair next to him. I used to think it was funny, but I haven't watched it in a long time. But no one should take him seriously. Ever.
McCain was wrong. Period. Still, there has been a concerted effort by the left, and especially the leftist media to smear Palin and to deny it is to stick your head in the sand. Heck, I said in this forum as soon as she was tapped that the election was over and Obama would win... and that was exactly what happened (McCain's "chicken with the head cut" act over the banking crisis certainly didn't help, it was the final nail in the coffin of his campaign). The continued effort to smear her by the left is a sign of fear.
Ummm. She has done more positive things for the USA than Obama and Biden combined.
"I made a very unfortunate and insensitive remark. It was the wrong thing to do, and I have no excuse for it.''
-- Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, June 11, 1998
We were, as we often do, making jokes about people in the news and we made some jokes about Sarah Palin and her daughter, the 18-year-old girl, who is — her name is Bristol, that’s right, and so, then, now they’re upset with me," Letterman said. "These are not jokes made about her 14-year-old daughter. I would never, never make jokes about raping or having sex of any description with a 14-year-old girl. I mean, look at my record. It has never happened. I don’t think it’s funny. I would never think it was funny. I wouldn’t put it in a joke…"
"… Gov. Palin, if you’re watching, I would like you to consider coming to New York City — even Todd — as my guests, or leave Todd at home. I’d love to have you on the show. It’d be exciting. All right, so there, I hope I’ve cleared part of this up. Am I guilty of poor taste? Yes. Did I suggest that it was okay for her 14-year-old daughter to be having promiscuous sex? No."
-- David Letterman
Here is the difference, one is an apology stating there was no excuse for it, while the other, supposedly a professional at these types of jokes with a staff to check out the facts and no apology, only excuses!
Think about this. Letterman makes reference to Sarah Palin as a "sluty flight attendant" then invites Sarah and her husband to visit, well no... leave your husband at home.
Additionally, they were jokes about a 14 year old. He may have in fact intended them for Bristol, we will never know the truth on that one, but they were in fact about a 14 year old girl that was in fact at the game he mentioned.
It is like throwing a punch at someone but hitting the wrong guy. You may have intended to hit someone else, but you are still guilty of hitting who you did!
Additionally, I'm wondering why Letterman would make jokes about raping anyone?
What has she done that deserves the type of treatment that would call for defense by the right and why would you not defend her?
Personally I hope the "leftist" media continue to cut Palin down at every turn. She represents everything wrong with the conservative movement over the last 20 years: 1 part Pat Buchanan xenophobe, 1 part Dick Chaney foreign policy, 2 parts Sean Hannity/Glenn Beck feigned patriotism, 1 part Jerry Falwell, and a concentrated extract of George W Bush schooling. I mean it took her like 5 years at 4 schools to get a degree in communications. I personally like to have people running the country that are smarter than my college intern.
It isn't about the politics. It's the hate.
What's with the victimhood complex? What ever happened to personal responsibility?
This entire post was pure ignorance, but I especially wanted to take exception to this. I transferred twice during my first couple of years of college. My first year was at a private school where I was on football scholarship. But even on football scholarship it was too expensive for my parents, and my knee was ripped to shreds, so I left after my first year. I transferred to Cameron in Lawton where I intended to play football. But my knee was so bad that wasn't a possibility... and Lawton sucks... so I left and transferred to OU in Norman, where I only lasted 1/2 a semester because I (understandably) absolutely hated it. I finally ended up in the place I wanted to be in the first place, Oklahoma State. Finished my pre-pharmacy there and was accepted to OUHSC COP. Get that? If you count OUHSC COP as a separate school from the Norman campus, it was my FIFTH different school. Does that make me stupid? I'm a university professor now, and chair of an academic department. So, am I stupid?
Maybe her parents couldn't afford Hawaii, like my parents couldn't afford the private school. Maybe she was home sick. She earned her degree without a handout from anyone. She ought to be dadgum admired for sticking to it when many people would have simply given up. And you, sir, are an idiot for using this to look down your nose at her.
Why don't you ask Letterman? He refuses to take responsibility. Don Imus took responsibility for his comments and they still fried him. Why does Letterman get a pass? Double standard?
I don't see Letterman whining about hate. And all because of an ill-advised crack about how someone dresses.
You want hate? I see plenty people here calling Obama a socialist, a Muslim, questioning his citizenship, and saying that he's selling out America by reaching out to the Muslim world. I see people here calling Sotomayor a racist. THAT is hate, my friend.
The second I see you calling out comments like that, perhaps I'll respond more sympathetically to your appeals for Palin (though she certainly needs to take some steps in that direction herself before I'll completely sympathize).